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The CDC Says No Isolated Samples of the Covid-19 Virus Are Available. The Development of Covid-19 Vaccines Based
3/25/2021
| Vanity
Posted on 03/25/2021 1:49:53 PM PDT by ransomnote
According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are "unavailable". This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.
I've been wondering how the vaccine developers are creating their mRNA for Covid-19 if they don't have isolated samples. Perhaps the quote from the article below answers my question.
The tiny tweak behind COVID-19 vaccines
cen.acs.org ^ | SEPTEMBER 29, 2020 | Ryan Cross
"On Jan. 10, Chinese scientists uploaded the genetic sequence of a novel coronavirus, later named SARS-CoV-2, to an open-access website, GenBank.
SNIP
A few hours later, Barney Graham woke up and saw the sequence. Though it was a Saturday, he got right to work.
Days before, his lab at the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) had partnered with the biotech company Moderna to design an experimental vaccine for the virus, which causes the disease COVID-19. All they’d needed to start was that sequence."
I wonder if China uploaded the genome to the biowarfare agent (Covid-19 virus) they released in order to help us develop a vaccine to protect ourselves from it.
Personally I believe that China's biowarfare agent is likely the combination of both the Covid-19 virus and the vaccines being created based on the genetic sequence they gave us.
Both the SARS-CoV-2 and vaccine mRNA have access to the reverse transcriptase enzyme, both of them can ‘upload’ their genetic sequence to the DNA (Modify the DNA to include their own images.
I think China may have outsourced biowarfare. I have wondered about some of the mRNA trials in the US leading up to the planned-demic.
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Do you also want me to dissect a bird to prove it isn’t a government surveillance drone?
How deep a hole do I have to dig to prove to you that the Earth isn’t flat?
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posted on
03/25/2021 2:33:30 PM PDT
by
2aProtectsTheRest
(The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
To: Slyfox
Yerp! Johnny, you win the prize!!!
22
posted on
03/25/2021 2:37:38 PM PDT
by
Patriot777
("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
To: Jan_Sobieski
23
posted on
03/25/2021 2:41:42 PM PDT
by
Diogenesis
(Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
To: Diogenesis
That is a great catch!
So, the CDC did not want to hand out any samples because THEY OWN THE ENTIRE THING.
To have outside investigators snooping around would be a problem.
That is why they refused those 8 California university researchers.
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posted on
03/25/2021 2:53:47 PM PDT
by
Slyfox
(Not my circus, not my monkeys )
To: ransomnote
ransomnote wrote: “According to the CDC, no isolated samples of the Covid-19 virus exist. The image below cites a July 2020 document but researchers continue to say their requests for isolated samples are denied because they are “unavailable”. This limitation probably harms the race to develop drug treatments, leaving the field open to vaccine makers.”
Simply incorrect and misleading information which is par for the course from the anti-vaxxer cult members:
“Social media users have claimed that a document from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) admits that the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the name for the novel coronavirus, does not exist. While the document is authentic, the scientific process described within it has been misrepresented.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cdc/fact-check-this-cdc-document-does-not-say-that-that-sars-cov-2-doesnt-exist-idUSKBN27633R
More from the article:
Dr Thushan de Silva, from the University of Sheffield’s Department of Infection, Immunity and Cardiovascular Disease, told Reuters that this was not correct.
De Silva said that the document is describing what was used to determine the lowest amount of viral genetic material the RT-PCR assay could detect.
“They describe a very common process during assay set up, where the limit of detection of the RT-PCR assay was determined”, he said.
In this case, the CDC have used ‘transcribed’ RNA as the positive control - which means they used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus.
“To calculate the limit of detection of an RT-PCR assay, you need to have a known quantity of virus to extract genetic material (RNA) from, or alternatively a known quantity of RNA identical to that carried by the virus ”, de Silva said.
According to de Silva, one reason for using transcribed RNA would have been that at the time of set up, not many standardised and quantified viral stocks would have been available to extract viral RNA from.
De Silva maintains that using transcribed RNA rather than RNA extracted from quantified viral stocks is no reason to question the existence of SARS-CoV-2.
“There are now hundreds of stocks of cultured SARS-CoV-2 in laboratories around the world”, he said.
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posted on
03/25/2021 2:54:14 PM PDT
by
DugwayDuke
(Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
To: DugwayDuke
The question of whether or not it exists is red herring... thrown out to discredit people who question the virus. The question is: Did Covid 19 originate in a lab and was it used to swing an election?
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:09:06 PM PDT
by
willyd
(I for one welcome our NSA overlords)
To: ransomnote
The freep vaxx squad always has much to say.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:11:44 PM PDT
by
shanover
(...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
My interest is in truthful information being available to people and combating fearmongering... Hey, we already did the fearmongering thing. Are you incapable of learning? I spent a lot of time on you on that one. Was it all for naught?
Please review your notes.
For someone 'interested in truthful information', you simply got to learn to accept it when it smacks you upside the head.
What do we do when one man's interest in truthful information becomes a roadblock to truth information? And why does that man get to be the truth referee?
Don't make me lose faith in you, little buddy.
Don't be a House Harkonnen. That would be bad.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:15:45 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
How deep a hole do I have to dig to prove to you that the Earth isn’t flat? All the way to Chiner.
Then smack Xi Panda for dropping the rona on us and trying to mutate us with his fake Chinese mutation potion vax.
If he tries to resist, tell him Bagster and Q sent you. He'll know what that means.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:19:23 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: Jan_Sobieski
Jan_Sobieski wrote:
Can you restate how you think vaccine development companies created a vaccine without an isolated virus?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've wondered how they did it.
As of July 2020 the CDC was saying that the isolate was unavailable. Note that in the first line of my post above, I use the word 'exist' where I should have used 'available'. Elsewhere in the thread post, I confirm I know the Covid-19 existance by saying I think it's a bioweapon and noting the properties it shares with the vacinne mRNA and HIV virus.
I have read/heard physicians and researchers complaints that isolated samples were still unavailable.
I've been trying to figure out how why this could happen. I think the CDC may be 'awarding' samples to favored researchers/organizations.
We know things about the virus, like it has fragments of HIV, and can upload it's sequence into the host's DNA. At the same time, some Dr's and researchers were denied requested samples, and being told none were available. Therefore, I wonder if the doctors/researchers denied samples are calling the CDC's bluff with taunts and digs about the virus not existing with the intention of provoking a release of samples "Put up, or shut up."
Lately I'm finding articles saying that the creation of the vaccines spike protein, which is coded by the RNA sequence, is based on China's Covid-19 genome. This means we are 'taking China's word for it' and selecting a sequence of the genome to build our mRNA vaccines. I don't think we have reason to trust China's genome.
Now, in the human trials they say they expose people to the virus but I don't know the method of exposure or if the vaccine companies are being honest (more about that below).
I don't trust the CDC's assertions about the availability of isolates after catching them lying to the nation and harming public health.
I've encountered many accounts of denied requests for it. I know the CDC revises their website freely to alter the narrative so I can't really rely on them as a source. I will need to find sources other than the vaccine companies and the CDC to find out if/when sources of isolated Covid-19 virus are available and what criteria may/may not drive their selection of recipients.
I don't feel bad about not having proof because the CDC and the vaccine manufacturers are definitely lying about so much, they really can't expect me to take their word for it. All negative information about the Covid-19 planned-demic and vaccines is being purged, so we fall back to secondary sources and then those doing the purging ridicule us for relying on secondary sources or struggles to find valid information at all.
The current censorship is removing access to anything but the 'narrative' and the narrative is tragically false (needless shutdown, masks, concealing vaccine risks etc.)
Of greater concern to me is that some of the vaccine trials appear to be faked or modified to prove what they want it to prove, so I am not convinced that they actually exposed people to Covid-19 in the trials yet.
The vaccine manufactures' designed their human trials to diagnose Covid-19 based on the presence of at lest one Covid-19 related symptom (many are common to other illnesses like the flu) and the PCR test. But the PCR does not indicate the presence of the virus, it indicates the presence of a sequence of molecules found in many different things, like motor oil, fruit, goats etc. Here's a thread that provides the details about the impossible way the vaccine companies manage to get data which supports their products using the PCR, which does not test for the virus, but tests for the matirals from a variety of many different sources.
For just information about the invalidity of the PCR, the article by Dr Mike Yeadon, the former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd., would be faster:
The ramifications of the continuing deception re Covid-19, and the reliance on the PCR (by Fauci, vaccine companies) are tremendously damaging. How am I to trust what these same say about who received what samples, if the samples were the the same Covid-19 identified elsehwere, or if they tell us they subjected trial participants to the live virus.
The Covid-19 vaccine trials can't be valid based on an invalid test for Covid-19.
Right now, people that I follow have higher credibility than Fauci and the vaccine companies. I am going to try to track down places I previously found complaints that researchers were denied samples and look for updates - because the CDC and Vaccine makers are lying on an epic scale at this point so they aren't a valid source of information.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:20:47 PM PDT
by
ransomnote
(IN GOD WE TRUST)
Jan_Sobieski wrote:
Can you restate how you think vaccine development companies created a vaccine without an isolated virus?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've wondered how they did it.
As of July 2020 the CDC was saying that the isolate was unavailable. Note that in the first line of my post above, I use the word 'exist' where I should have used 'available'. Elsewhere in the thread post, I confirm I know the Covid-19 existance by saying I think it's a bioweapon and noting the properties it shares with the vacinne mRNA and HIV virus.
I have read/heard physicians and researchers complaints that isolated samples were still unavailable.
I've been trying to figure out how why this could happen. I think the CDC may be 'awarding' samples to favored researchers/organizations.
We know things about the virus, like it has fragments of HIV, and can upload it's sequence into the host's DNA. At the same time, some Dr's and researchers were denied requested samples, and being told none were available. Therefore, I wonder if the doctors/researchers denied samples are calling the CDC's bluff with taunts and digs about the virus not existing with the intention of provoking a release of samples "Put up, or shut up."
Lately I'm finding articles saying that the creation of the vaccines spike protein, which is coded by the RNA sequence, is based on China's Covid-19 genome. This means we are 'taking China's word for it' and selecting a sequence of the genome to build our mRNA vaccines. I don't think we have reason to trust China's genome.
Now, in the human trials they say they expose people to the virus but I don't know the method of exposure or if the vaccine companies are being honest (more about that below).
I don't trust the CDC's assertions about the availability of isolates after catching them lying to the nation and harming public health.
I've encountered many accounts of denied requests for it. I know the CDC revises their website freely to alter the narrative so I can't really rely on them as a source. I will need to find sources other than the vaccine companies and the CDC to find out if/when sources of isolated Covid-19 virus are available and what criteria may/may not drive their selection of recipients.
I don't feel bad about not having proof because the CDC and the vaccine manufacturers are definitely lying about so much, they really can't expect me to take their word for it. All negative information about the Covid-19 planned-demic and vaccines is being purged, so we fall back to secondary sources and then those doing the purging ridicule us for relying on secondary sources or struggles to find valid information at all.
The current censorship is removing access to anything but the 'narrative' and the narrative is tragically false (needless shutdown, masks, concealing vaccine risks etc.)
Of greater concern to me is that some of the vaccine trials appear to be faked or modified to prove what they want it to prove, so I am not convinced that they actually exposed people to Covid-19 in the trials yet.
The vaccine manufactures' designed their human trials to diagnose Covid-19 based on the presence of at lest one Covid-19 related symptom (many are common to other illnesses like the flu) and the PCR test. But the PCR does not indicate the presence of the virus, it indicates the presence of a sequence of molecules found in many different things, like motor oil, fruit, goats etc. Here's a thread that provides the details about the impossible way the vaccine companies manage to get data which supports their products using the PCR, which does not test for the virus, but tests for the matirals from a variety of many different sources.
For just information about the invalidity of the PCR, the article by Dr Mike Yeadon, the former CSO and VP, Allergy and Respiratory Research Head with Pfizer Global R&D and co-Founder of Ziarco Pharma Ltd., would be faster:
The ramifications of the continuing deception re Covid-19, and the reliance on the PCR (by Fauci, vaccine companies) are tremendously damaging. How am I to trust what these same say about who received what samples, if the samples were the the same Covid-19 identified elsehwere, or if they tell us they subjected trial participants to the live virus.
The Covid-19 vaccine trials can't be valid based on an invalid test for Covid-19.
Right now, people that I follow have higher credibility than Fauci and the vaccine companies. I am going to try to track down places I previously found complaints that researchers were denied samples and look for updates - because the CDC and Vaccine makers are lying on an epic scale at this point so they aren't a valid source of information.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:22:37 PM PDT
by
ransomnote
(IN GOD WE TRUST)
To: DugwayDuke
In this case, the CDC have used ‘transcribed’ RNA as the positive control - which means they used synthetically produced genetic material identical to that carried by the virus. According to this theory, Data is the same as Jean Luc Picard.
Do they think we're stupid?
Thank you for proof that they don't have the covid. Plastic blow up dolls are not really your girlfriend. Biden is not president. And Michelle Obama is not a girl.
#FollowTheScience
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:25:22 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: DugwayDuke
Simply incorrect and misleading information which is par for the course from the anti-vaxxer cult members: There have been whispers around the FR popsicle stand that your mom's a vaxxer cult member.
How do you respond to that?
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:27:31 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: bagster
"If he tries to resist, tell him Bagster and Q sent you. He'll know what that means."That I'm off my rocker?
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:27:49 PM PDT
by
2aProtectsTheRest
(The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
To: shanover
The freep vaxx squad always has much to say. I'm noticing that most FReepers are top scientists, many being Nobel laureates.
They know so many things.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:29:54 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: DugwayDuke
De Silva maintains that using transcribed RNA rather than RNA extracted from quantified viral stocks is no reason to question the existence of SARS-CoV-2. Maybe. Maybe not.
But its reason to question whether the fake Chinese potion won ton soup vaccine works.
Or will mutate you into a panda. If it does, the vax cult will become half panda half sheep hybrids.
Imagine what that will look like.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:34:07 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: 2aProtectsTheRest
That I'm off my rocker? He already knows that.
I texted him.
Now get to diggin'. This might take a minute.
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posted on
03/25/2021 3:40:22 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
To: willyd
“The question is: Did Covid 19 originate in a lab and was it used to swing an election?”
**************************************************************
Yes and Yes. I thank God for Donald Trump and his Operation Warp Speed vaccines.
To: Just mythoughts
The noob has been shilling for them since sign up.
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posted on
03/25/2021 4:06:50 PM PDT
by
metmom
(...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
To: House Atreides
I thank God for Donald Trump and his Operation Warp Speed vaccines. Leg humper.
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posted on
03/25/2021 4:22:17 PM PDT
by
bagster
("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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