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Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?
pjmedia.com ^ | 3/19/2021 | bryon preston

Posted on 03/20/2021 9:54:12 AM PDT by bitt

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To: MinorityRepublican

The total energy used by the transportation sector of the US economy is over ten times the total output of all the USA nuclear power plants combined that is 96 reactors at 59 plants. So to replace even half that with electric cars you would need approximately 500 new reactors. Not to mention where are all the batteries coming form and the lithium to make them? From the lithium fairy?


61 posted on 03/20/2021 10:49:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
You and some others have some good and useful info. Thanks...

I recently came across some data on Tesla charging that I found interesting. There are 3 levels of Tesla charging. All this assumes the same model Tesla and a full charge from very low to full.

At other lowest level and cheapest to implement is a simple 110V extension cord in the garage. This takes about 20 hours.

The midlevel recharge system is again home based, more costly to implement and consists of a dedicated 220V circuit. This takes about 8 hours.

The high end, fast recharge is quite expensive, uses 440V electricity and will not be compatible with most residences. It will be limited to commercial charge stations. I've seen a few of these around town at shopping malls. It's a fat pylon with a charging cable and a credit card reader. The idea is to plug in, go shopping then return to a charged car. Recharge time is about 2 hours.

I'm going on a 900mi trip in a few weeks. If I had a Tesla, this would increase my pit stops for fuel by something like 50% or more each taking 1.5 hour as opposed to 10min gas stops. I often make this trip in 1 long day and sometimes overnight along the way. An EV vehicle will easily guarantee 2 full days.

My opinions....

62 posted on 03/20/2021 10:52:17 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Bob434

About half of the general public voted for Biden and by definition half of the general pubic is below average intelligence. I see a correlation


63 posted on 03/20/2021 10:53:08 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: nascarnation

while an 8 year old gas car is not even to its half life yet.”””

I’m driving a 23 yr old Pontiac FireBird. It passes inspection easily. Runs like a raped ape and can go 0-60 faster than the factory spec when new. When I went to Washington last Jan it did the 300 miles @ 70/85 mph, never lower, and got 30.50 mpg.


64 posted on 03/20/2021 10:53:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: wita; from occupied ga

I expect to see problems with electric vehicles using the grid in 5-10 years from now. wita pointed out what happened in Texas so that’s a taste of what will be coming because we are not prepared for it.


65 posted on 03/20/2021 10:54:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Bob434

The typical neighborhood infrastructure is not set up to handle even a slight majority of people all charging their cars overnight.


66 posted on 03/20/2021 10:55:08 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DesertRhino

Tesla is ending the need for cobalt in EVs.


67 posted on 03/20/2021 11:01:47 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: DesertRhino

Utilities won’t be able to do that if the markets are regulated, but your local and state taxman will have all sorts of fun with EV’s.

I pay $225 Ad valorum tax just because they cannot collect gas tax on me.


68 posted on 03/20/2021 11:03:43 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Alberta's Child

“ there’s no question that advances in battery storage and charging time have been made in leaps and bounds in recent years. ”
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Hardly, leaps and bounds is the definition of exponential improvement. And, battery storage improvement is not that. Some of the early automobiles were battery powered. If you peg improvement back to that time period (100 years ago) improvement has been evolutionary at best. Furthermore, there’s no big battery storage leap or bound on the horizon. Sorry 😞....


69 posted on 03/20/2021 11:03:54 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: Vision
"No, people are morons. And these cars are coal fueled."

Well, then they will run on Chinese coal because coal mining in USA is now taboo...

Maybe we can used cow chips.. No wait, cows are also about to become taboo.. (spit)

70 posted on 03/20/2021 11:04:01 AM PDT by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: stylin19a

EV batteries are being built to million-mile specifications. By the time you need replace it, it will have paid for itself >2x over.


71 posted on 03/20/2021 11:05:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Cold Heart

There are some very good options out there.
I remember renting the old GM Volt and I liked the fact that the battery charge was the first 50 miles used and then it went to gas. I think it only needed 6 gallons to fill it up completely and you could get 350 miles off of that.


72 posted on 03/20/2021 11:06:02 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: bitt
...environmental research Robert Wimmer testified before the Senate this week, and said: “If we are to make dramatic progress in electrification, it will require overcoming tremendous challenges, including refueling infrastructure, battery availability

Facts don't matter to white liberal elites...they want to pat themselves on the back for 'saving motha earf'.... again, and again, and again... So they'll mandate one more disaster...

73 posted on 03/20/2021 11:06:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Rasmussen:75% of Americans support voter ID laws.(60% Democrat support - 89% Republican support.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Politicians have already hijacked the issue, by pushing it via the “global warming” lie. There is almost no demand for electric cars by the buying public.
74 posted on 03/20/2021 11:07:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: precisionshootist

Don’t get me started on the Texas electric market.
They did that to themselves and it could have easily been prevented.

Deregulated energy markets always cause problems. California and rolling blackouts are another example of it.


75 posted on 03/20/2021 11:07:59 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: nascarnation

At $7/gal gas, a maxed out Tesla Cybertruck will pay for itself in about 160,000 miles ... and last >3x that.


76 posted on 03/20/2021 11:08:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

That’s not deregulation.


77 posted on 03/20/2021 11:08:39 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

I think you’ll see in the next few years that will change.
In GA there are 4 residential developers that I know of that install a level 2 charging station in every new home they build.

Infrastructure is a key piece to making it work.


78 posted on 03/20/2021 11:09:52 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: bitt

Problem, what problem? It is the goal of the left to limit travel of the masses.


79 posted on 03/20/2021 11:11:27 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Bob434

The point that EV batteries degrade below 90% is well after most gas vehicles have self destructed.


80 posted on 03/20/2021 11:11:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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