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Toyota Warns (Again) About Electrifying All Autos. Is Anyone Listening?
pjmedia.com ^ | 3/19/2021 | bryon preston

Posted on 03/20/2021 9:54:12 AM PDT by bitt

Depending on how and when you count, Japan’s Toyota is the world’s largest automaker. According to Wheels, Toyota and Volkswagen vie for the title of the world’s largest, with each taking the crown from the other as the market moves. That’s including Volkswagen’s inherent advantage of sporting 12 brands versus Toyota’s four. Audi, Lamborghini, Porsche, Bugatti, and Bentley are included in the Volkswagen brand family.

GM, America’s largest automaker, is about half Toyota’s size thanks to its 2009 bankruptcy and restructuring. Toyota is actually a major car manufacturer in the United States; in 2016 it made about 81% of the cars it sold in the U.S. right here in its nearly half a dozen American plants. If you’re driving a Tundra, RAV4, Camry, or Corolla it was probably American-made in a red state. Toyota was among the first to introduce gas-electric hybrid cars into the market, with the Prius twenty years ago. It hasn’t been afraid to change the car game.

All of this is to point out that Toyota understands both the car market and the infrastructure that supports it perhaps better than any other manufacturer on the planet. It hasn’t grown its footprint through acquisitions, as Volkswagen has, and it hasn’t undergone bankruptcy and bailout as GM has. Toyota has grown by building reliable cars for decades.

When Toyota offers an opinion on the car market, it’s probably worth listening to. This week, Toyota reiterated an opinion it has offered before. That opinion is straightforward: The world is not yet ready to support a fully electric auto fleet.

Toyota’s head of energy and environmental research Robert Wimmer testified before the Senate this week, and said: “If we are to make dramatic progress in electrification, it will require overcoming tremendous challenges, including refueling infrastructure, battery availability, consumer acceptance, .

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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If I were forced to go electric I would go for the plug in hybrids.


41 posted on 03/20/2021 10:29:55 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Vision
Coal fueled

Very true. The best electric cars have a battery rated for 100 kwh. According to none other than the EPA a gallon of gas has 33.7 kwh so an electric car has basically a 3 gallon tank which at 220 volts takes about 10 hours to charge.

My newest car (2019) has an 18 gal tank so it holds 606 khw (that's 6 times as much for any electric vehicle cheerleaders out there) It takes about 5 min to fill including finding a spot at the pump and swiping the credit card. Hmmm which one is more convenient.

Now as to coal burning. it takes about a pound of coal to make one kwh (this is at the gen station so add about 7% for transmission and distribution losses so 1.07 lb of coal to get 1 kwh at the wall socket. Assuming there arent any losses going from socket to battery and of course there are I just can't find a reliable estimate for them) that 100 kwh battery burns 107 lb of coal.

Now for those idiots who buy into the obvious lie that CO2 is a danger to the planet, burning a pound of coal yields 3 2/3 lb of co2 so a single charge gives 392 1/3 lb of CO2 (like who cares), but what about the gas car? Gas is about 84% carbon so burning 3 gal of gas gives (3 * 7* 3.666*.842 = 64)pounds of CO2 which can go to enrich the lives of plants everywhere. I will never buy an electric car

42 posted on 03/20/2021 10:30:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: stylin19a

A hybrid can operate fine with a depleted battery pack, it just uses a bit more petroleum.

A full electric is a much different story.


43 posted on 03/20/2021 10:30:47 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: M1903A1

Excellent example of unforseen Consequences. I’m sure the re are .ots more scenarios like this that l,,s don’t know about until it’s too late and they find they have no vehicle to use. It really could be a life and death situations where lectricity just is not available whe it is needed. Of course, a fuel run car can run out of gasoline too, but these are individual issues, unlike with electric that would affect everyone of electricity for so e reason became unavailable


44 posted on 03/20/2021 10:31:28 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: CivilWarBrewing
" BECAUSE CUTTING EVERYONE OFF, THEREBY MAKING ONE'S ABILITY TO FREELY ROAM IMPOSSIBLE IS FAR MORE INSTANTANEOUS WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES, THAT'S WHY!!!!! "

You sir win the internet today! That is exactly correct. Electric power can be instantly turned off. Texas was the most recent test of this concept. The commies have forced Texas to close coal power plants and install wind and solar which is nothing but a lie. Wind and solar is a fraud, pure and simple but it makes electricity scarce and expensive and that's the goal. Once everything is electric the commies can shut everybody down with the flip of a switch. If you live in North Texas you got a very clear demonstration just recently.

45 posted on 03/20/2021 10:32:13 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Alberta's Child

But isn’t the mileage tax supposed to offset revenues lost from gas taxes?


46 posted on 03/20/2021 10:33:31 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Rlsau1

Truth vs Fiction


47 posted on 03/20/2021 10:33:42 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Alberta's Child; Roman_War_Criminal

Why don’t existing gas stations provide batteries that can be switched out in a minute or two? That infrastructure already exists.

On a cross country trip the low battery could be switched for a fully charged battery at another Exxon or Sinclair station.

Would it be possible for the car manufacturers to design a battery that is light enough and accessible enough for a little old grandma to manage?


48 posted on 03/20/2021 10:34:58 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: bitt

bookmark


49 posted on 03/20/2021 10:35:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: BobL

Yep, the left are no longer asking for our approval, they are just forcing their liberal agendas on us because now everything is inllace, they own everything,co troll everything, even the sc through fear and I ti ideation via blm, antifa and rioting if the sc doesn’t rule how the left want them to.

I’ve been saying it for a little while now, the left have taken off the kid gloves and are now d in an all out hostile takeover of everything. Anyone standing in their way Will be punished and canceled by losing their jobs, shunned and ostracized, even arrested if they get too uppity, like the peaceful protesters at the Capitol building have been punished and arrested (while violent murderous antifs and blm burn down our cities with impunity practically. The left loo, the other way when they do violence, because that vi o ence by the blm and antifa crowd serve the lefts hostile takeover coup ery well right now)


50 posted on 03/20/2021 10:37:40 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: bitt

Thank you Toyota for making a high profile statement about something that anyone that thinks critically knew already.

Oh yeah, the critical thinking part leaves out anyone who is our has voted for a Demolishcrat lately.


51 posted on 03/20/2021 10:37:53 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
"Having leased 3 previous EV’s I think they are awesome cars and very convenient when fuel prices are through the roof or supply sucks."

And just so you know if an EV was your only mode of transportation you may well have froze to death in North Texas last month. Just think about that for a second. More than 30 people froze to death in TEXAS. That's something that can only be accomplished by commies.

When everything is powered by electricity commies will control your life.

52 posted on 03/20/2021 10:38:32 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Bob434
Excellent example of unforseen Consequences

What makes you think they're unforseen? Simply another price paid by the peasants for being controlled. Shut of the electricity, and you can shut down transport within unruly areas - like those in which bitter clingers like me who know the elections was stolen by the Democraps live.

53 posted on 03/20/2021 10:40:27 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I am looking forward to electric cars. I think it is a great concept and love the high torque, simplicity, less moving parts, lower maintenance requirements. That said...

I'm with you on this. I went ahead and bought a Chevy Bolt and am really enjoying it. I know that I am not saving the environment, but I enjoy the quietness, the low maintenance etc... On a warm day, I can go over 300 miles, and there are plenty of fast charging points all over the place.

54 posted on 03/20/2021 10:41:21 AM PDT by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: bitt

Yes. I am listening. BTW people want what they can’t have.
Strategy idea - include an AR15 with purchase of any new electric vehicle.
This would stop liberals from buying them. And get more conservatives to buy them.
Entirely Constitutional - AND not unconstitutional.


55 posted on 03/20/2021 10:42:04 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: from occupied ga

By the general public who think they are the bees knees


56 posted on 03/20/2021 10:43:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: libertylover

you can find it online - about $4500 to replace a battery that includes labor, and you still have to service the transmission and drive train components on a priapus


57 posted on 03/20/2021 10:44:33 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Alberta's Child

Much easier for every general store to stock a few cans of Shell Motor Spirit than to build (rebuild/augment in this case) an entire electrical generation and distribution network.


58 posted on 03/20/2021 10:46:06 AM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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To: wintertime

Why?


59 posted on 03/20/2021 10:48:10 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: wintertime

I think tucker tried that with engine repairs. They went out of business although their auto technology was superior.


60 posted on 03/20/2021 10:49:02 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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