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Gerald Horne’s counter-revolution against 1776
wsws.org ^ | 3/18/21 | Fred Schleger

Posted on 03/18/2021 8:37:52 AM PDT by Borges

In 2014, Professor Gerald Horne of the University of Houston published a book with a startling thesis: that the American Revolution was fought to preserve slavery. This was no genuine revolution, Horne argued, but rather a counter-revolution waged to defend slavery against the true revolutionary force, the abolitionist British Empire—hence the name of the book, The Counter-Revolution of 1776. The American victory was not a progressive or world-historic event. It was a catastrophe. Horne suggests an analogy: the American Revolution created “the first apartheid state.”

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Excellent takedown of this idiocy from a surprising source. How long before this book is taught in schools as fact?
1 posted on 03/18/2021 8:37:52 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
In the grand tradition of FR, I did not read the article.
Nonetheless; I am guessing that most of his thesis is speculation. I do not expect that any of his conclusions are based on the writings, letters or documents of the Founding Fathers.
2 posted on 03/18/2021 8:43:26 AM PDT by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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To: Borges

In a more civil age this idiot would just have been ignored. Thank you Internet, for being an echo chamber for stupidity.


3 posted on 03/18/2021 8:43:49 AM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: super7man

The article mentions that! The arguments for revolution were argued out in the open. There is not a single mention of British Abolition anywhere. Frankly the British Abolitionist movement didn’t get going till after the American Revolution.


4 posted on 03/18/2021 8:45:42 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Publish or perish, even if it’s bovine scat.


5 posted on 03/18/2021 8:54:28 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Borges

Thank you. Made my morning.

I busted a full chortle and laugh of mirth filled surprise.

Laughter is how to dispatch a clown like this....if you respond at all.

Most Leftist Loons should be treated like a fart at the Thanksgiving table.

Ignore them.
Give them a collective derisive look.
Laugh at them.


6 posted on 03/18/2021 9:00:16 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Borges

When 1619 doesn’t work— try to rewrite what actually happened in the American Revolution against King George III and the British empire which was bleeding the Colonies dry with taxes they could not stop in any other way— and they tried the legal ways.... all ignored.

Some of these idiots try to make this into a British Colony “civil war” between Brit subjects... IT WASN’T. There was a Declaration of Independence, FIRST. And Britain replied... with WAR on the Colonies. It was not a “socialist” civil war.

What shite. The article surprisingly takes apart the argument of this scat author. Trying to incorporate the never ending ‘slavery’ argument as being the Abolition movement (black slavery)-— IGNORES the slavery of all other colonists in permanent indentured servitude and slavery of their own— all British run, that industry. We declared Independence against the real situation— the Statist ownership of the Colonies, to be... no more.


7 posted on 03/18/2021 9:03:59 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Borges

Interesting read. Horn is a fool with an agenda and no backing to what he claimed. No wonder the 1619 project fools use it as justification for their lies.


8 posted on 03/18/2021 9:13:55 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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an independent Supreme Court and a nation of free men.”
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9 posted on 03/18/2021 9:46:57 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (March comes in like an emu and goes out like a tapir. And they don't even know what that means!)
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To: Borges

The thesis seems a bit weak, but I’ve often thought that the US Civil War saw the Confederacy as a final gasp of the original American nation as launched in 1776 vs. a wholly new, industrial, Northern structure that grew out of the later U.S. Constitution.


10 posted on 03/18/2021 10:45:37 AM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: NonValueAdded

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11 posted on 03/18/2021 10:46:01 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep

wow... hannping = happening*


12 posted on 03/18/2021 10:46:45 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: Borges
"Frankly the British Abolitionist movement didn’t get going till after the American Revolution."

They like to claim they ended slavery before we did, but when has the UK ever had a Prime Minister of color?

13 posted on 03/18/2021 11:14:49 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Borges

Horne needs to take Hillsdale free Constitution classes. They are enjoyable and very educational


14 posted on 03/18/2021 11:42:14 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Count Rostov "The tyranny of indistinguishable days.")
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To: Borges

The British abolished slavery in 1834. Some abolitionists.


15 posted on 03/18/2021 11:42:47 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: sit-rep

Dear FRiend, many are feeling their mortality for the first time, as are we. I pray that a decent core of the next generation are here, on this forum, getting ready to carry the torch for us. I also pray that I do not see your name on the Memorial Wall for a good long time.

Warmest FRegards.


16 posted on 03/18/2021 11:46:25 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (March comes in like an emu and goes out like a tapir. And they don't even know what that means!)
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To: Borges

The new American Congress outlawed the transatlantic African-slave trade almost simultaneously with the British Parliament, but we were stuck with the slaves we had.


17 posted on 03/18/2021 12:06:20 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Many of our Founding Fathers who owned slaves saw slavery as evil and some even tried to gradually end it. Charles Carroll of Carrollton for example, who signed the Declaration of Independence introduced a bill in the Maryland Senate to gradually abolish slavery (it didn’t pass). He is quoted saying, “Why keep alive the question of slavery? It is admitted by all to be a great evil.”


18 posted on 03/18/2021 12:44:31 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: NonValueAdded

The Grand Experiment. The events during and after the election, set to TWO pieces of music by Joseph Blanchard. Saving history.

http://www.iment.com/maida/tv/politics/video/2020-The-Grand-Experiment-Joseph-Blanchard-V04.htm


19 posted on 03/18/2021 12:52:44 PM PDT by mairdie (Mary's Favorites - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYTtL1FB2XCpL8eqeACMzvAAcCGIjDFJR)
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To: Demiurge2; BroJoeK
The thesis seems a bit weak, but I’ve often thought that the US Civil War saw the Confederacy as a final gasp of the original American nation as launched in 1776 vs. a wholly new, industrial, Northern structure that grew out of the later U.S. Constitution.

Yes. Lincoln certainly took the nation in a new direction. A more fascist one with the central government controlling everything.

20 posted on 03/18/2021 1:59:03 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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