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Looking for data/evidence on what has caused some states to trend liberal.
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 3/16/2021 | dragnet2

Posted on 03/16/2021 1:13:54 PM PDT by dragnet2

Was it due to people moving in from other states?

Election fraud?

Or is it due to increasingly liberal public education in these states, churning out a never ending conga-line of young leftist voters each year for the past several decades?


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41 posted on 03/16/2021 2:03:43 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: qaz123
As someone who lives in Peachtree corners I can attest to that. But, also affluent suburbanites tending left over social issues. Also that is what happens when you lower taxes on the same affluent persons.
42 posted on 03/16/2021 2:04:41 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: salmon76

Just 14 counties in Pennsylvania used Dominion machines.

In 11 of these Trump INCREASED both his vote total and voting share from 2016.

In all 14 the vote totals went up for President Trump.

Armstrong increased Trump 23484 (16) - 27489 (20)
Bedford increased Trump 19552 (16) - 23025 (20)
Carbon increased Trump 18745 (16) - 21984 (20)
Clarion increased Trump 12576 (16) - 14578 (20)
Crawford increased Trump 24987 (16) - 28561 (20)
Erie increased Trump 60069 (16) - 66869 (20)
Fayette increased Trump 34590 (16) - 41243 (20)
Fulton increased Trump 5694 (16) - 6824 (20)
Jefferson increased Trump 15192 (16) - Trump 17960 (20)
Luzerne increased Trump 78688 (16) - Trump 86929 (20)
Montgomery increased Trump 162731 - Trump 185460 (20)
Pike increased Trump 16056 (16) - Trump 19213 (20)
Warren increased Trump 12477 (16) - Trump 14237 (20)
York increased Trump 128528 (16) - Trump 146733 (20)

In addition to the raw vote increases in EVERY county that used Dominion machines, the percentage of vote increased for Trump in Armstrong, Bedford, Carbon, Clarion, Crawford, Fayette, Fulton, Jefferson, and Warren.

York was basically a wash, and there were slightly decreased percentages in Erie, Luzerne, Pike and Montgomery.

In Fayette, which uses dominion machines, Trump won the highest percentage of vote share for a Republican EVER. Biden received the second lowest percentage for a Democrat EVER.

So, if the lizard people were rigging the election with Dominion machines, they did a TERRIBLE job in that they actually increased Trump’s margin in PA in these counties that used the machines.

Moreover, they forgot to rig Florida, which also uses Dominion machines and in which Trump vastly overperformed all expectations. Keep in mind that if Biden had won Florida, PA, GA, AZ and WI wouldn’t have mattered at all.

Morons keep looking in the wrong place. The machines weren’t the problem. This data PROVES that beyond all doubt.

Do you know what the difference between Florida and PA, WI, AZ and GA was? It wasn’t machines. Florida uses dominion. It was the difference in MAIL voting controls and rules. Florida has mail voting locked down, with stringent verification and ID requirements.

PA, GA, AZ and WI do not.

Everyone has been focused on machines because of morons like Lin Wood, when the answer is in the mail voting controls.


43 posted on 03/16/2021 2:05:20 PM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: amnestynone

But, also affluent suburbanites tending left over social issues.

For me, the people you mention and hipsters are the ruin of this nation more than anything. For they are the root cause of all of this. They have the money and provide the support and votes, as long as the consequences of many of policies don’t move next door to them or frequent their favorite micro-brewery.


44 posted on 03/16/2021 2:09:27 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: qam1

I like how you immediately scream FAKE without even pointing to a specific link. lol

Let’s face it, economic demographics show the poorest Americans reside in red states. Most don’t even pay much in federal taxes aside from soc sec, and yet some of these states receive more than twice back in federal dollars than what they contribute.
I seem to remember SC having boom years of 8$ back on every $1 sent to DC. No wonder Graham has kept his job for so long.

I think we should let the rich blue staters raise taxes on themselves, the repubs will reap the benefits back home.


45 posted on 03/16/2021 2:11:35 PM PDT by Katya (lacking in the feelings department, )
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To: dragnet2

You can’t look at the states in total. Look by county.

Election fraud is very significant in some areas.

Look at voter turnout vs. registered voters and voting age population.

Look at political corruption and election officials.


46 posted on 03/16/2021 2:14:02 PM PDT by detective
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To: dragnet2
I would start with motor voter.

Republicans were conpetitative in California until motor voter.

That became the template for other states.

47 posted on 03/16/2021 2:17:52 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: dragnet2

Socialism will always be popular with people who think they can get something for nothing and these people tend to vote for Democrats.


48 posted on 03/16/2021 2:39:46 PM PDT by libertylover (Many people who want to destroy us have bumper stickers on their cars that say: "Coexist".)
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To: dragnet2

In the early 50s Khrushchev said the following:

“Your children will be taught and they will not know that they are being taught. Your children will be taught and YOU will not know that they are being taught.”

The communist media here pushed the comment aside and said, “That is just rhetoric. He doesn’t really mean it.”

Apparently, no one listened to Khrushchev except me and here we are today.

One of his other comments was, paraphrased, “You will sell to us the rope with which we will hang you.”


49 posted on 03/16/2021 2:42:27 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I always refer to Otto Preminger's quote about actors: "Actors are like cattle!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Yep, most of those California democrats and RINOs that corruptrd WA, OR, NV, CO, and AZ moved to the cities, not the rural areas.

Oregon saw what was happening, posting stickers with “No Californians” on house for sale signs.


50 posted on 03/16/2021 2:54:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69 ("Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: Freee-dame

My Mom taught during that time and agrees with you.


51 posted on 03/16/2021 3:04:49 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: doorgunner69

People in Oregon put stickers with “No Californians” on house for sale signs?

Really? So if a buyer from CA offered them say, $40,000 over asking price, they turn it down?


52 posted on 03/16/2021 3:06:09 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Simple..without patriotism a nation perish...in other words colleges, the education system along with socialist radicals kill off states and nations! It’s very difficult for illegals to form a patriotic bone in their bodies when they pledge allegiance to their own nations. Just look at California and the sleuth of illgels who fly their nations flags but disrespect ours. They enter here for the freebies and to convert this nation to a mirror image of their homelands..take a good look at the Muslim community in Minnesota...it doesn’t represent or look like your typical American neighborhood. America the beautiful is long gone!


53 posted on 03/16/2021 3:22:41 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: dragnet2

Demographics are the main reason for changes in voting. Economic and cultural changes are contributing causes, along with news developments, the strength of political organization, campaign effectiveness, and candidate quality. The Left’s major sources of political power are the news media, the nonprofit sector, and unions, especially public employee unions. The Left’s cultural power is rooted in education, especially higher education, and in the entertainment industry.


54 posted on 03/16/2021 3:34:37 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: RoseofTexas
Yep, I've watch illegals dump trash in the streets while flying Mexican flags in CA. Started seeing that decades ago. At the time I was thinking this is quite odd for newcomers to behave like that and wondered why in hell it was tolerated. And then over years it became real clear, the leftist love the illegals, while loathing America and holding legitimate citizens and good patriots in contempt. All this while millions of illegals choked off our jails, schools, social services, hospitals...you name it.

Once the hard reality of that sunk in, is when I started look for an exit.

55 posted on 03/16/2021 3:34:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Three reasons...

(1) Massive LEGAL immigration. New immigrant citizens and their American born children vote 70% Democrat.

(2) One third of eligible USA voters are non-white. Non-whites vote 75% Democrat.

(3) The Democrat Party has solved their perennial problem of low voter turn out - obviously, significant fraud with mail in ballots - less obvious, the Democrats had record turn out, in 2020, and in 2018, before the pandemic.

Bottom Line...

Conservatives are not a majority in the USA.

When the Democrats get all their LEGAL voters to the polls, we cannot win a presidential election without an extraordinary candidate, like Trump.

We might be able to win a tiny majority in the House and Senate, but we can only do that with the help of a significant number of RINOs.

56 posted on 03/16/2021 3:45:21 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen
When the Democrats get all their LEGAL voters to the polls, we cannot win a presidential election without an extraordinary candidate, like Trump.

Trump and DeSantis are showing us how to be competitive in Florida. A lot of Hispanics are voting for GOP in Florida. Okay, it helps that many of them are Cubans and Venezuelans who are escaping from Communist Hell Holes. But we need to use the Florida's playbook to be competitive in purple states.

57 posted on 03/16/2021 3:49:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: brownsfan
Someday is likely to be pretty far off. But yes, leftism can’t last, it’s fatally flawed. But the correction is ALWAYS bloody.

You're so right. Here's what to expect.

If you think the start of this century's been wild, you ain't seen Nuttin' Honey, to copy a favorite kid's cereal.

I have great reason to believe that by the end of the century, the world will have seen the most horrific seven years ever seen on earth - so bad everyone except for a few million Israelites hiding in the mountains, will have been wiped off the face of the earth. Afterwards and by the end of this century, Jesus will be King of kings in Jerusalem. How's that for a wild century?

OK, so if you know your Bible, Jesus will reign as King over the world for 1000 years, the Left seemingly gone for good. But wait. Not so fast. At the end of the 1000 years, Satan , the source of Leftism, will be loosed from the prison he's been in during the 1000 years, and guess what? He stirs up a full blown rebellion against Christ the King and causes the world to go up against and surround the saints and Jerusalem where Jesus is (Revelation 20:7-9).

So even with Jesus Christ himself in charge of things here, He's still reigning over a Left-leaning world. No, there's only one solution to Leftism and its source Satan and the world. Complete annihilation.

So Satan is thrown forever in a lake of fire, and the heavens and the earth simply disappear replaced by a glorious new heaven and new earth (Revelation 20:10-11;21:1).

So how far away are we from the complete annihilation of the Left? A little over a thousand years - as you say, pretty far off. But remember, after this century, the Left, embodied in Satan, will be chained down for 1000 years. And after than, gone forever. Pretty cool, huh?

58 posted on 03/16/2021 3:59:57 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: dragnet2

Pot.


59 posted on 03/16/2021 4:08:25 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Caveat Emperor: Comitii asinorum atque rhinocerorum delendi sunt.)
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To: dragnet2

Look to our own state, California. You were around in the 90’s when proposition 187 passed, and was then submarined by tactical litigation.

And don’t forget that during that effort, which was a successful grass-roots campaign if there ever was one, the entire GOP establishment worked to undermine the effort at every turn, eg GWB, “conservative” commentators like Hugh Hewitt. Not to re-litigate that effort, which in all honesty was probably too little too late, but there’s your reason, right there. Our elite class decided sometime around 1965 that their interests would be better served by a new demographic profile. California just leads the way.

They took Brecht’s satire as a guide:

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers’ Union
Had distributed leaflets on the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could only win it back
By increased work quotas. Would it not in that case be simpler
for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

If you want a book-length explanation, you should read “Alien Nation”, published in 1996 by Peter Brimelow. It’s all there.


60 posted on 03/16/2021 4:08:32 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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