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Surgeon Destroys Myth: ‘If Masks Don’t Work, Why Do Surgeons Wear Them?’
CNS News ^ | March 10, 2021 | Dr Jim Meehan

Posted on 03/15/2021 11:45:51 PM PDT by SecAmndmt

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To: jonrick46

The CDC does not represent the best interests of the nation or my immediate family. I NEVER take advice from this politically driven office. They do not speak for me or my family & until they are about disease elimination instead of “control” I will NEVER trust anything thing they release or ANYONE who promotes their propaganda as fact.


41 posted on 03/16/2021 2:22:39 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: JD_UTDallas

You are looking at this protection thing from the perspective of avoiding infection from others. That is not how it is suppose to work. The purpose is to protect others from what you have. You may be asymptomatic and be a carrier. Before entering a public area, wash your hands, use hand sanitizer and use disinfectants spray to spray down your grocery cart. Keep a safe distance from others. Wear a mask to stop the droplets laden with the C-virus you may be expelling with your breath. Don’t cheat: Make sure you keep your nose behind the mask. Just in case your hands touched something with another’s virus contaminated hands, stop by the disinfectant station and use the hand sanitizer before leaving the store.


42 posted on 03/16/2021 2:24:49 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46

Is that you Dr Fauxci?

Or is that you Dr Birx?


43 posted on 03/16/2021 2:27:04 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: DesertRhino

As it has been shown that masks lower your oxygen intake I worry about a doc cutting on me when wearing a mask.


44 posted on 03/16/2021 2:27:17 AM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: SecAmndmt

In general, I wonder if those who bow at the CDC altar regarding masks equally follow its guidance on alcohol, weight, diet, exercise, smoking, and marijuana.... I’m not against the CDC because they do have reasoned, science based information— except on the mask issue (which was science based before they flip flopped in a fright of “the sky is falling”).

Just because studies (many available on pubmed) start with the premise that “masks have been proven...” doesn’t mean that research has been done to affirm the pro-mask position, it simply means there is publishing bias with a boatload of shoddy, nonsense studies building resumes for hack scientists.


45 posted on 03/16/2021 2:30:36 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: jonrick46

:: You are wearing masks to protect others from getting what you have. ::

So, only those who are symptomatic and shedding viral particles should wear a mask.
But, if you are symptomatic, shouldn’t you be at home in bed rather than going out to the grocery store?
I know the inevitable response but I’ll let you say it anyway.


46 posted on 03/16/2021 2:34:24 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: jonrick46

:: You may be asymptomatic and be a carrier. ::

I note that you used the term “may be a”.
Why?

Because there is no evidence that the asymptomatic can spread COVID.
There are no verified cases of asymptomatic contagion.
Not.
A.
Single.
One.


47 posted on 03/16/2021 2:38:07 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Geert Vanden Bossche, DMV, PhD, does not consider the nature of the COVID-19. It is a very stable genome because it has an unique function that eliminates variations in its replication process. This is extremely important because of the Spike Protein has to be consistent or the virus will not be able to invade the cell to hijack the ribosomes for the translation process which makes new viruses. I cannot describe this mechanism in detail, but the researchers know about it and are confident the vaccines will immunize using the stable Spike Protein as the antegen.


48 posted on 03/16/2021 2:40:45 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
"There are no verified cases of asymptomatic contagion.

Provide proof. Here is my proof: https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/

49 posted on 03/16/2021 2:46:47 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: TheStickman

So, what information that you have read, gives you confidence that you are keeping safe from infection and others safe from infection? Also, if you are concerned about the vaccine, what have you read that gives you concern? You can pick one topic if you want.


50 posted on 03/16/2021 2:50:46 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Ummm because they’re in a negative pressure, highly sterile environment with open incisions .... you know things 100 percent of the rest of us don’t need to worry about.


51 posted on 03/16/2021 3:03:43 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: jonrick46

I agree with your post. There are falsehoods in the commentary.


52 posted on 03/16/2021 3:09:33 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: jonrick46

Author uses only anecdotal references from Asian news outlets.

Credibility check:
About the author
Katie Kerwin McCrimmon, UCHealth
Katie Kerwin McCrimmon is a proud Colorado native. She attended Colorado College, thanks to a merit scholarship from the Boettcher Foundation, and worked as a park ranger in Rocky Mountain National Park during summer breaks from college. She is also a storyteller. She loves getting to know UCHealth patients and providers and sharing their inspiring stories.

Katie spent years working as a journalist at the Rocky Mountain News and was a finalist with a team of reporters for the Pulitzer Prize for their coverage of a deadly wildfire in Glenwood Springs in 1994. Katie was the first reporter in the U.S. to track down and interview survivors of the tragic blaze, which left 14 firefighters dead.

She covered an array of beats over the years, including the environment, politics, education and criminal justice. She also loved covering stories in Congress and at the U.S. Supreme Court during a stint as the Rocky’s reporter in Washington, D.C.

Katie then worked as a reporter for an online health news site before joining the UCHealth team in 2017.

Katie and her husband Cyrus, a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer, have three children. The family loves traveling together anywhere from Glacier National Park to Cuba.


53 posted on 03/16/2021 3:11:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: SecAmndmt

I wish I was making the money that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx were making. Between the two, I admire Dr. Birx more. Dr. Fauci, being more a biochemist, is a research wonk that has a hard time communicating the detailed information he knows into a general understanding. The Creator has indeed created a most complex life form in the human being. You really have to be sharp to describe what you know. I don’t have a hard time understanding Dr. Fauci when he gives a complete picture of what he knows. I think in his older age, he forgets to give some of that picture we need.


54 posted on 03/16/2021 3:12:02 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Well, I’ve seen them taking their masks off in the operating area after a procedure is complete. They certainly didn’t wear masks when making rounds as I observed as a hospital volunteer. We are in the midst of a storm of insanity in this country.


55 posted on 03/16/2021 3:15:09 AM PDT by Maudeen (God is not in control of our lives until we give it to Him. Think about it!)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Last March, I had a cough so bad, I was having cramps in my abdominal muscles. My nose was running and my muscles ached. My son had the same cough and was running a fever. He tested negative. However, would I have tested if I didn’t have my son? I did go to the store at a time when masks were not being worn. I was coughing and wiping my nose. If it was the C-virus, I would have been a spreader. Thinking back at my behavior, I am embarrassed.

Now, I have a little raw feeling in my throat. Sometimes I cough. Should I quarantine myself? What if I was contagious before I had that feeling in my throat? I think wearing a mask as if you had the virus is the best policy; like wearing a seat belt. You may be an asymptomatic spreader.


56 posted on 03/16/2021 3:30:48 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: SecAmndmt

People in states governed by Democrats should continue to avoid wearing masks, getting vaccinated, washing their hands and eating cooked meat.


57 posted on 03/16/2021 3:33:46 AM PDT by familyop
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To: jonrick46

Anecdotal.


58 posted on 03/16/2021 3:34:26 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Patriots, stop looking at the politicians as enemies. Look at the complicit Legacy Media.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Katie Kerwin McCrimmon seems like she has some solid credentials as a journalist. She even has a husband who is a Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer. Photography is my thing too.

Dr. David Beckham runs a research lab at the University of Colorado School of Medicine. I am sure he knows what he is doing. This is his statement:

“We need to remember to protect each other. Everybody has a grandparent or knows someone who is high-risk. Simply wearing a mask and maintaining six feet of distance from others works to reduce infections since we know that asymptomatic spread occurs.”


59 posted on 03/16/2021 3:45:03 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jonrick46
The purpose of the mask is to protect others by blocking the droplets you emit.

There is no definitive study that shows this. We are all conditioned to believe this. It seems reasonable. Surgeons wear them for infection control. So they must be good.

According to this:
"Unmasking the surgeons: the evidence base behind the use of facemasks in surgery"
J R Soc Med. 2015 Jun; 108(6): 223–228.
doi: 10.1177/0141076815583167

There is not much scientific evidence behind them, it's mostly tradition.

There is also this abstract that indicates NO statistical difference in post surgical wound infections in surgeries performed with masks or without masks:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1853618

"Postoperative wound infections and surgical face masks: a controlled study"
World J Surg . May-Jun 1991;15(3):383-7; discussion 387-8.
doi: 10.1007/BF01658736

The main findings from the abstract: "After 1,537 operations performed with face masks, 73 (4.7%) wound infections were recorded and, after 1,551 operations performed without face masks, 55 (3.5%) infections occurred. This difference was not statistically significant (p greater than 0.05)..."

60 posted on 03/16/2021 3:45:26 AM PDT by stig
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