Posted on 03/11/2021 7:22:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
“The American “Thinker” hasn’t had a very good track record on reporting factual information on COVID or any other issue over the last several months.”
Strongly disagree. They are an excellent site, with articles from many conservative authors. Your personal bias is showing. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
“So why post this article and continue post similar nonsense from this source? Their track record has been in the toilet for the last several months on multiple issues, not just this one.”
I will now make it my mission to post from there every day, just to see your head explode.
DID you ever suspect that the people posting this misleading stuff are trying to manipulate you for their own purposes?
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Of course they are. And who exactly are these people posting the misleading stuff and trying to manipulate us?
The CDC of course. The very ones who you use as a source to believe no one has died from a Covid vaccine.
Are Rare Cases of Immune Thrombocytopenia Linked to the COVID Vaccine?
From the link...
He added, “Having it happen after a vaccine is well-known and has been seen with many other vaccines. Why it happens, we don’t know.”
Oh, I feel ever so much better now.
What's their purpose? Do they get paid for clicks like the American Thinker grifters?
Here is a chart from Feb.16 with a breakdown of the number of deaths in the vaccinated and when they occurred in relation to the time they were vaccinated. Over half in the first week post vax and trending down dramatically in each successive week. According to the CDC update as of March 8 those deaths are now up to 1,637.
What's their purpose?
The purpose of Fauci and the CDC is to lie and manipulate the sheeple into wearing masks, obeying illegal state mandates and getting vaccinated. They do this by releasing conflicting information on a weekly basis. They do this by insisting that no has has died as a result of a vaccination.
Despite the facts.
Iron: Innocent bystander or vicious culprit in COVID-19 pathogenesis?
Wonder if some of the vaccine issues could be related to that...
We’ve had school closures for vaccine reactions.
Despite the facts.
What facts?
Show me cases where someone died because of the vaccine.
Not just someone who died after taking the vaccine.
The CDC itself says that their VAER is “Not designed to assess causality.” They are not going to attribute any death or any adverse event to the vaccine. They are merely going to report on the number of event notices they have received. This has been their protocol all along.
So if you are waiting for the CDC to say any vaccination or drug caused a death you are going to have wait until they do studies of “patterns” of adverse events well into the future. Remember this is an experimental program with no long term data history.
The Utah head medical examiner has made clear that autopsies cannot be used to determine death from a vaccine. So you will never see an autopsy which attributes a death to a vaccine unless, as he put it, the person died “instantaneously” after the drug is administered from anaphylaxis.
But, the CDC does provide the death data and I will repeat it again here:
The 966 deaths that some are trying to suggest are not caused by the vaccine but “coincidental” to it occurred 514 times in the first week after the vaccine, the next week only 173 people died, the week after that it was only 106 and then the following week only 50 people “coincidentally” died.
The week after that only 16 died and then 10 and then 2 and then 1. They apparently found a cure for “coincidentally” as time passed...:-) Remember these are all the same people with the same comorbidities and the same age.
The evidence is pretty clear in much of the data even from other countries. The majority of deaths after vaccination occur in the first week and trend down in each succeeding week.
Reports of 33 suspected adverse drug reactions with fatal outcomes after administration of the Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine had been received by the Norwegian Medicines Agency as at 17 January. All the people who died were over 75. Around 42,000 people are believed to have received the first dose of the vaccine so far in Norway.
The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.
“Our immediate thoughts are with the bereaved families.”
As a result, Norway has adjusted their guidelines and no longer recommends the vaccines for people over 75 or frail.
The CDC has updated the above Feb. 17 numbers. As of March 8 1,637 people have died after vaccination.
Not so. They actively investigate reported deaths. Look at the link in post 16.
"CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."
So if you are waiting for the CDC to say any vaccination or drug caused a death you are going to have wait until they do studies of “patterns” of adverse events well into the future.
You don't understand what the CDC does.
“To date, VAERS has not detected patterns in cause of death that would indicate a safety problem with COVID-19 vaccines.”
“to date” “patterns”...and as far as “reviewing autopsy” I gave you the verbatim quotes of the Utah head medical examiner who specifically spelled out that you are not going to see autopsies attribute deaths after covid vaccine to the vaccine.
The CDC has not attributed the death of ANY of those 1,637 people to ANYTHING.
Of course they are going to say they review every death but they spell out that they are not going to determine cause.
You are ignoring the data they do provide. It is compelling. Within a week after vax over 50% (541) of the 966 deaths occur. Within a few weeks they are down to only 1 death.
No. The MEs and attending doctors determine cause. And none of them determined the vaccine was the cause.
The CDC reviews the work done by the front-line professionals.
Are you second guessing all of them because their results don't fit your narrative?
Within a week after vax over 50% (541) of the 966 deaths occur. Within a few weeks they are down to only 1 death.
Yet not one death attributed to the vaccine.
Conspiracy?
This makes perfect sense given the way VAERS works. The closer the death is to the date of the vaccination the more likely someone is to attribute it to the shot and report it to VAERS.
Given a constant rate of death among post-vaccinated people you would expect to see a declining number reported to VAERS over time.
So guess what is not approved for the covid?
On purpose.
semimojo: “Yet not one death attributed to the vaccine.”
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I am going to repeat again “The CDC has not attributed the death of ANY of those 1,637 people to ANYTHING.
The CDC itself says that their VAER is “Not designed to assess causality.”
The CDC requires all vaccination deaths to be reported.
Despite your assertion that none of the attending doctors determined the vaccine was the cause, you have no idea what the attending doctors of those 1,637 deaths determined.
“Apparently bleeding disorders are an issue with vaccines...”
I’m somewhat of a bleeder, so will refrain for a week, or so, from aspirin, garlic pills and some other things that can increase bleeding. I’ve read that at least one person died from some kind of brain bleeding.
Not sure what I read is always true though.
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