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I think there's much more to this 1776 Commission report that should be analyzed, paragraph by paragraph.

One thing I am very thankful for is that in the report, it lists progressivism prior to fascism and communism. That is both significant and more importantly accurate.

1 posted on 03/10/2021 7:29:34 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Wish I could have been a part. They put me on, then kicked me off right after the election to make room, I think, for Ned Ryun. Supposedly they gave me a more permanent spot on the Board of Education Sciences, from which Biteme couldn’t fire me, but turns out because of my curriculum, I had a financial conflict of interest & had to resign.

Anyway, there is a passage from Calhoun that most people overlook, where he said something to the effect of “We have a right to hold our slaves and to hold them in peace” meaning free fromn criticism or challenge. His was the first, that I know of, of “speech codes.”


2 posted on 03/10/2021 7:35:04 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: rockrr

ping... ??


3 posted on 03/10/2021 7:35:24 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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Something I think I probably should have added:

This report helps re-construct the timeline in a way that progressives surely abhor. By the time we get to the progressive era in the 1900s, rejecting the Founding Fathers and rejecting the Declaration are already fairly widespread. Where did progressives get that from, or did they invent that on their own? Much of that was in the North, they didn’t get that from southerners.

I think most of the progressives invented it on their own due to their elitism, however at least in the case of known racists like Woodrow Wilson with his heritage, he would’ve most likely picked these ideas up from the people around him. Knowing how this all fits together is important going forward.


4 posted on 03/10/2021 7:40:11 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Good. Jackson should have changed the traitor Calhoun.


6 posted on 03/10/2021 7:48:51 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Hanged.


7 posted on 03/10/2021 7:50:28 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up!)
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later


8 posted on 03/10/2021 7:54:07 AM PST by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I do not believe that anyone, even Thomas Jefferson, believed that the phrase “all men are created equal” meant anything other than that aristocracy based on anything other than talent was an injustice.

In particular, Calhoun’s observation about the non-uniformity of human groups was universally accepted in 1776, and for many years afterward.


10 posted on 03/10/2021 7:56:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
In Minneapolis the DNR changed the name of the famous Lake Calhoun to Lake Bde Maka Ska,in the name of political correctness.
11 posted on 03/10/2021 8:09:15 AM PST by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

All I know is that as soon as someone tells me the CW was about “states rights” or anything other than slavery, I can safely ignore anything following as coming from an ignoramus and a traitor.


13 posted on 03/10/2021 9:15:16 AM PST by RedStateRocker ("Never miss a good chance to Shut Up" - Will Rogers)
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To: Pelham; wardaddy; stainlessbanner; rustbucket

John C. Calhoun was the best statesman of his era.
He wasn’t a bit afraid of Jackson’s empty threats of hanging
If only he had the President of the Confederacy sigh.


14 posted on 03/10/2021 3:57:03 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade
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To: l8pilot

Ping


15 posted on 03/10/2021 3:59:32 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade
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To: ProgressingAmerica

A couple thoughts:

- The primary intent of the Declaration’s “all men are created equal” was to negate divine rule
- Nevertheless, the logic requires affirmation that all men are, indeed, “created equal.”
- Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address referred to the Declaration and not to the Constitution.
- Here we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Constitution that both Calhoun and progressives exploited: the document was a political contract.
- As such, the Constitution can be easily construed to support or oppose any particular ideology, whereas it is, instead, an operative contract based upon specific terms derived from specific principles and not the other way around.


20 posted on 03/10/2021 8:41:53 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
It's always hard to sum up the entirety of a man's contributions in a single position. With Calhoun it might be a bit easier than other because slavery and the defense of it was such a huge part of his political life. But he was also an ardent state's rights supporter and while his positions may have been a bit extreme at times, nullification crisis for example, it was still important to uphold the rights and powers of the states and their relationship with the federal government.

I recommend "Heirs of the Founders" by H. W. Brands for a interesting overview of Clay, Calhoun, and Webster.

24 posted on 03/11/2021 5:22:13 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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