[JD_UTDallas]

The level of math illiteracy in this board is bloody shameful.

Contrary to what the flubros and mouth breathers keep spouting about a 99+ percent survival rate they are are flat out wrong and lying at best. This is from the world’s foremost trusted authority on endemic diseases the USA has a CFR for ALL ages if 1.8% and that number is in the high 20% for the 80+ cohort still down from 30+%

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

So for the mouth breathers this is how the math works.

1.8% death rate with a 94% effective vaccine is 0.108% when compounded. But all three of the vaccines have shown in peer review blind study a 100% effective rate against death from symptomatic covid19. The 94% effective rate is for being sick with symptoms at all with the Pfizer and Moderna. Including JnJ they all three succeeded in making death not a factor once fully immunized. Read that again all three approved vaccines have a 100% effective reduction in death rate. So from 1.8% and 20+% in high risk elderly to ZERO it does not get better than that. Anti vaxers can choose not to take it and if they die from covid that’s Darwin at work removing their defective genes from the species. I have always been a fan of the Darwin Awards.

[gas_dr]

It is nice to see someone else who can do math. Prepare to get called every name in the book by the flat earthers

[Trumpet 1]

Removing their defective genes from the species...That is if they have not already produced children. Since most of the deaths are from the ultra old, it is responsible to assume that those who died were already not participating in future growing of babies.

[Dr. Franklin]

The level of math illiteracy in this board is bloody shameful.

Right, so if a vaccine is actually killing people it can't be 100% effective. If just one person died because of the vaccine, it can't be 100% effective. You agree with that math right?

Vaccines are not without side effects. So, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was created in 1990 to detect possible safety problems in U.S.-licensed vaccines. It is co-managed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA):
https://vaers.hhs.gov/about.html
Based on data supplied to VAERS, this site is tracking adverse reactions to the COVID vaccines, including deaths:
https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data
According to the U.K. data, 1 in every 333 people has an adverse reaction to the vaccines, which include death and blindness:
https://principia-scientific.com/uk-government-releases-shocking-report-on-covid-vaccine-side-effects/

Since vaccines can have side effects, the science of vaccines is balancing the benefit vs. the risk. With treatment, Covid has a near 100% survival rate.

Dr. Simone Gold of the American Frontline Doctors (AFLD) has addresses this in some detail here:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/frontline-doctors-experimental-vaccines-not-safer-than-covid-19
Using the CDC’s data, she notes the COVID fatality rate (IFR) as follows: • 0-19 years old: 0.00003 (99.997 percent survival rate) • 20-49 years old: 0.0002 (99.98 percent survival rate) • 50-69 years old: 0.005 (99.5 percent survival rate) • 70+ years old: 0.054 (94.6 percent survival rate) So, rationally, the vaccine should be no more dangerous than the virus. Yet, we don’t know what the long term consequences are for the vaccine. If a young person has a 99.997 percent survival rate for COVID IF infected, why should that person risk blindness, sterility, or any other unknown consequence? These doctors have concluded that risk is unethical, and only advise those over 70 to take the vaccine. Additionally, those numbers don’t include treatment with hydrocholorquine (HCQ) or ivermectin, two cheap well known drugs used for effective COVID treatment in “developing” nations like India, but not here.

So then, what is the risk from taking the vaccine? According to the Israeli Health Ministry the Pfizer vax 'killed “about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed” during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.'
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher-than-covid-19-deaths-researchers
This blogger found similar numbers in the U.K. data: https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/virusecrecy-shock-pfizer-product-28-more-lethal-than-astrazenecas/
India blocked the Pfizer vaccine on safety concerns. From what I read in the U.K. data, elderly people actually have an increased risk of contracting Covid in the nine days following being first vaccinated. That may explain some of the deaths. Furthermore, since these vaccines are experimental, we have no idea what the long term affects of the virus are. One doctor has concerns that it could cause young women to become sterile do to the protein involved. It's a personal choice to become a human guinea pig for Big Pharma, but people should understand there are serious risks involved in taking these vaccines. The over inflation of Covid deaths, lack of transparency, and censorship by Big Tech and the corporate media of respected medical professionals with dissenting opinions should give everyone pause.

[Freee-dame]

all three of the vaccines have shown in peer review blind study a 100% effective rate against death from symptomatic covid19.

This is the first time that I have read this. If this is true, it should be broadcast far more widely than it has been so far.

[semimojo]

Contrary to what the flubros and mouth breathers keep spouting about a 99+ percent survival rate they are are flat out wrong and lying at best.

While I agree with your general point if you consider IFR instead of CFR the 99+% is probably accurate.

[CodeJockey]

Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking the 100% prevention of deaths was just for those involved in the clinical trials.

So in theory, if the entire world population, some 7.8 billion could vaccinated, they would never be a death again attributed to the virus. Amazing they can make that claim.