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Minimum Wage
feb 27, 2021 | MosesKnows

Posted on 02/27/2021 7:28:55 AM PST by MosesKnows

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To: MosesKnows

STOP THE PRESSES! LET’S BRING BACK THE 5 CENT CANDY BAR!
When politicians particularly members of today’s in name only democrat party started pushing for a higher minimum wage. The focus should have been on purchasing power of the lowest coin of the realm. Each time it was passed the price of an item like an individual candy bar and everything else increased. What began at 5 cents in the 1940’s was when the minnimum wage was 50 cents an hour . As the rate steadily increased so did candy bar prices to what it is today. The result has always been since it began devaluing the purchasing power of the dollar.What would happen if we revalued the penny into a dimes or a quarters purchasing power ?


21 posted on 02/27/2021 9:17:08 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: MosesKnows

Let’s not fall for the Democraps attempt to use minimum wage laws designed to prevent child labor exploitation with their push for a “living wage” to establish a guaranteed wage that will only be pushed higher and higher as the goverment managed economy concept becomes more and more prevalent to the detriment of a free market economy.


22 posted on 02/27/2021 9:53:01 AM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: MosesKnows
"In the end wages are always should be determined by the market and are a function of supply and demand." I get your point but will stand by mine. Here is why. Although the minimum wage can be set by other than market forces, in the end it is the market which will decide the success or failure of an arbitrary adjustment of wages. Here is an example. I used to own a retail business. My business allowed for X amount for salary expenses (after mine) Any increases in the amount allotted for salary can only come from either an increase in profit or a reduction in my salary (not happening). If I am forced to increase the salary of my entry level employees then that $ must come from the current employee allocation for salary. This means I can either lay off help or shorten hours. The likelihood is I will lay off all minimum wage employees I have and hire some more experienced or at least better educated than I had. By increasing the wages paid the pool of perspective employees will also increase. The end result is the very people who the minimum wage (entry level wage) is supposed to help will instead be shut out of the workplace by better qualified/educated job seekers. The markets will always determine the price of anything subject to the laws of supply/demand. Wages are included in this equation.
23 posted on 02/27/2021 10:11:04 AM PST by billyboy15 (')
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To: Nifster

“Just remember a starting ICU nurse barely gets $15 an hour”

Where? In Atlanta, new RN graduates (not necessarily new ER nurses) start at $25/hr and up.

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/atlanta-new-grad-rn-salary-SRCH_IL.0,7_IM52_KO8,19.htm


24 posted on 02/27/2021 10:58:01 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

That’s the big city. Look at wages in the rural hospitals


25 posted on 02/27/2021 12:42:48 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Here is an ad for an RN, no experience required, at Putnam General Hospital in Eatonton, GA. We pass by this hospital once every six weeks or so on the way to the Georgia coast. Very rural area. Starting salary from $22/hr plus extensive benefits, with no experience. Apologies for the formatting.

Registered Nurse (RN) 7PM—7AM, Full-time- job post
PUTNAM GENERAL HOSPITAL
13 reviews
Eatonton, GA 31024
Employer actively reviewed candidates 8 days ago

Urgently hiring
Job details
Salary
From $22 an hour
Job Type
Full-time
Number of hires for this role
3
Qualifications
BLS Certification (Preferred)

RN license (Preferred)

Full Job Description
Position Description:

Plan and supervise the nursing care delivered to acutely ill pediatric, adolescent, adult, and geriatric patients in designated units in accordance with all standards governing our facility. Salary is dependent upon education and experience.

Minimal Qualifications:

1. Education:

a. Current licensure by Georgia State Board of Nursing
b. BCLS
c. If primary assignment is in critical care area ACLS certification required within 1 year.
d. If primary assignment is emergency department, PALS certification required within 1 year.
2. Experience:

a. None required, may be obtained during orientation and preceptorship
3. Personal skills/abilities:

a. Human relation skills are needed for personal interaction with other employees, patients, physicians and the general pubic.
b. Temperamental ability to be pleasant, cheerful, tactful, cooperative, responsible, compassionate, and courteous.
Physical/Mental Demands:

1. Verbal ability is necessary to communicate with patients and staff; to understand instructions, medical terminology and concepts; and to keep accurate records.

2. Manual dexterity is required to use hands skillfully.

3. The physical demands are standing, walking, lifting, and pushing patients and/or carts, wheelchairs, reaching, handling, fingering of instruments, equipment, dressings, stooping, climbing, crouching, grasping, repetitive motions, medium work requirements, etc. Must be able to lift 50 pounds.

4. Form perception and near visual acuity to observe pertinent details of equipment and patients.

Job Type: Full-time

Pay: From $22.00 per hour

Benefits:

401(k)
Dental insurance
Disability insurance
Employee discount
Free parking
Health insurance
Life insurance
Paid time off
Prescription drug insurance
Vision insurance
Medical Specialty:

Medical-Surgical
Schedule:

12 hour shift
Night shift
Supplemental Pay:

Differential pay
Overtime pay
License/Certification:

BLS Certification (Preferred)
RN license (Preferred)
Environment:

Inpatient
Employer type:

General hospital
Completed license needed:

Upon starting work
EMR Used:

Not listed / Other
Patient Type:

Family
Uniform:

Nurses wear own scrubs
Nurse Patient Ratio:

1:6
This Job Is:

A job for which military experienced candidates are encouraged to apply
A good fit for applicants with gaps in their resume, or who have been out of the workforce for the past 6 months or more
A good job for someone just entering the workforce or returning to the workforce with limited experience and education
A job for which all ages, including older job seekers, are encouraged to apply
Company’s website:

WWW.PUTNAMGENERAL.COM
Benefit Conditions:

Waiting period may apply
Only full-time employees eligible
Work Remotely:

No
30+ days ago
If you require alternative methods of application or screening, you must approach the employer directly to request this as Indeed is not responsible for the employer’s application process.


26 posted on 02/27/2021 12:56:42 PM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

Putnam is desperate for bodies. CoVid has decimated the community


27 posted on 02/27/2021 3:43:09 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

“Putnam is desperate for bodies. CoVid has decimated the community”

The ad is to fill three RN vacancies. Seems about normal for a hospital of that size. There is a severe shortage of RNs in many communities. Long shifts, stressful work, and frequent burn-out. The number of confirmed Covid cases in Putnam (7500 per 100,000) is about average for the state. There are many counties in Georgia with more than 10,000 cases per 100,000 people.


28 posted on 02/27/2021 5:00:40 PM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: JeanLM; fhayek; Alberta's Child; usurper

The correct minimum wage is zero if you want to solidify the country club Republican vote and to forever forgo becoming the working class party. If so then by all means promote the idea no minimum wage. If the Republicans get behind an increase in the min wage where are the country clubbers going to go?


29 posted on 02/27/2021 9:40:13 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: riverdawg

You are looking at today’s numbers. You must not live in Georgia


30 posted on 02/27/2021 11:11:40 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: central_va

You posed a different question. What should be and what we can get passed ate two different things. Since we have a law, as ungrounded in the constitution as it is, we should pass what ever minimum, minimum wage bill we can get.

Worrying that an inflation adjusted minimum isn’t growing, should not be a basis for change.

We already have a zero minimum wage. It’s called an internship.


31 posted on 02/28/2021 5:19:36 AM PST by JeanLM (Obama proved melanin is just enough to win elections Trump proves being good is not enough..)
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To: central_va
Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with “working class” politics, and has everything to do with pandering for votes and undermining small business owners.

Anyone with half a brain should see a giant red flag in all this when the increase in the minimum wage is viewed in the context of the OTHER elements of the leftist agenda in the U.S. The whole thing is a farce and will inevitably result in a collapse of our entire social order. Just look at ALL The things they’re pushing here, dude:

1. Raise the minimum wage to $15/hour — even for workers who don’t produce $15/hour of value for their work.

2. Force employers to pay for health insurance — so the $15/hour worker now costs $18-$20 per hour.

3. Flood the country with illegal immigrants — who will simply undercut the $15/hour worker anyway.

4. Adopt a “universal basic income” — to pay people $15/hour even if they don’t work anyway, and even if they are illegal aliens.

This has nothing to do with “country club Republicans.” It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this is going to be an absolute disaster.

32 posted on 02/28/2021 5:56:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Nifster

“You are looking at today’s numbers. You must not live in Georgia”

I live in Northeast Georgia. I travel regularly on backroads through Middle and Southeast Georgia. I know almost every small town between Greensboro and Brunswick. I quoted current Covid numbers because those, along with other factors affecting demand for hospital services, drive the current demand for nurses. I notice you have retreated from your claim that starting RN salaries begin at $15/hour.


33 posted on 02/28/2021 7:06:25 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

Then if you live in Georgia you should remember that Putnam was hit very hard early on in the CoVid onset. A nursing home swamped the hospital in Putnam


34 posted on 02/28/2021 8:01:16 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

“Then if you live in Georgia you should remember that Putnam was hit very hard early on in the CoVid onset. A nursing home swamped the hospital in Putnam”

Yes, but that has nothing to do with the starting salaries for RNs, which is what initiated our exchange. I know the hospitals in Madison, Greensboro, Edenton, Vidalia, Reidsville, and Brunswick (as well as in larger places like Athens). None of them can hire new RNs at $15/hour.


35 posted on 02/28/2021 8:21:25 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

Pickens and Cherokee do routinely


36 posted on 02/28/2021 8:43:37 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Alberta's Child
Raising the minimum wage has nothing to do with “working class” politics, and has everything to do with pandering for votes and undermining small business owners.

It has everything to do wit it.

This has nothing to do with “country club Republicans.” It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that this is going to be an absolute disaster.

When it doesn't?

37 posted on 02/28/2021 9:06:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Nifster

“Pickens and Cherokee do routinely”

Hard to believe. Do you have a source/link?


38 posted on 02/28/2021 9:20:41 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

My daughter an RN and her colleagues


39 posted on 02/28/2021 9:56:34 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Piedmont Mountainside in Jasper currently has openings for seven RNs in ICU alone. If hospitals in that area pay “barely” $15/hour for new RNs, as your daughter claims, that may explain why. Many rural hospitals in Georgia are paying +$22/hour for new RNs.

https://piedmontcareers.org/search-results?keywords=&category=Nursing&specialty%5BAllied+Health%5D=&specialty%5BCase+Management%5D=&specialty%5BClinical+Support%5D=&specialty%5BFacility+Support%5D=&specialty%5BLeadership%5D=&specialty%5BNursing%5D=Critical+Care&specialty%5BPhysician+Practices%5D=&specialty%5BProfessional%5D=&specialty%5BRevenue+Cycle%5D=&community=Piedmont+Mountainside+Hospital&location=United+States-Georgia-Jasper


40 posted on 02/28/2021 11:36:35 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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