APPLE CURRENT M1 LINEUP PING!
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Posted on 02/26/2021 10:10:08 AM PST by dennisw
The Mac price crash of 2021 Macs hold their value. Where I live it’s not uncommon to see 10-, 12-, even 20-year-old Macs for sale. But the new M1 Macs have cratered MacBook resale values. The carnage is just beginning.
The impressive performance and battery life gains of the new M1 MacBooks have created a historic discontinuity in the normally placid resale market. Should you spend $800 for a one year old MacBook Air when for $200 more you could get a MacBook Air with several times the performance and 50 percent better battery life?
That's a question savvy buyers are asking themselves. Not surprisingly, the most common answer seems to be "Nope!"
SAVVY SELLERS AND NAÏVE BUYERS I check Craigslist fairly regularly to keep track of what's for sale. I've seen an unusual bifurcation in the pricing for MacBooks.
There are more late-model Intel MacBooks showing up for sale. Some of those are showing context sensitive pricing, i.e. almost new MacBook Airs for $600 rather than the $800-$900 that some think their Intel-based machine is still worth.
But most seem to be hoping that good news travels slow. And why not?
Buying a used Mac laptop: How to avoid scams and find the best deals Unless buyers check out a site like Everymac they won't know what they're missing. The bottom-of-the-line M1 MacBook Air has a Geekbench 5 multiprocessor score that is almost 2.5x that of the early 2020, top-of-the-line quad-core I7. For 80 percent of the price. And most users won't need to spend the extra cash for the 16GB version since the memory management and page swapping is so efficient.
The contrast is even more striking when comparing MacBook Pros. Not only is the 13" MacBook Pro faster on the Geekbench 5 single and multiprocessor benchmarks than the top-of-the-line 16" MacBook Pro Intel I9, it less than half the price.
And it isn't just a single benchmark. Search on "M1 MacBook Pro vs 16 MacBook Pro" on YouTube to see multiple videos testing real world workloads on both machines.
To be fair, not everyone is impressed, often because the software critical to their workflow isn't optimized for the new M1 processor. But those corner cases don't reflect average users needs. In the meantime, most of those specialized apps are being recompiled to be M1 native over the next year.
THE TAKE The days when Intel produced startling performance gains with every new generation of x86 processors are, sadly, decades behind us. The industry hasn't seen this level of price/performance discontinuity since the jump from the Intel 8008 to the 8080.
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Intel processors have a isolated internal processor that you are not privy to affect in any way, form, or fashion.
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Thanks for the ping Dennis... sorry I didn’t see it sooner.
One of the vid blogs noted that an Intel-based iMac intro in 2020 was cancelled, and the refreshed design (whatever it proves to be) is to be introduced in 2021 as an M1 or successor model.
Not at all happy with Apple at the moment. Last update made my main mail account unusable .
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I should have said this happened on my iPhone .
Covid caused that. Every family member needed their own computer, and everyone needed a decent machine for Zooming plus other apps. Lots of demand, prices went up.
Same thing probably happened to old Motorola G-processor Macs when Apple went to Intel-based CPUs.
Totally not true. Everything I've bought from Apple starting in 2003 (with the iPod) is still functional today. Granted, I have no real need for that original iPod but if I plug it in today, it will still function just as it did nearly 20 year ago and will still have those old Pearl Jam and Oasis songs loaded on it.
I have a 2011 MacBook Pro that a few years back lost it's display. It was just turning five years old at that point and I took it to the Apple store, figuring they'd tell me to buy a new one (and I would have). But no, they told me this was a known issue and they had a fix for it. Free of charge. I picked it up the next day and it was just like new. I still have it today but it has been retired in favor of the Air.
Congrats!
Seems like I heard about that.
I have a mid ‘08 MBPro 17” that I have lugged all over the world nearly every day from ‘08 until I retired in ‘17. It looks like Maynard the tow truck with some deep scratches on the bottom. It is the one I am using now and is slung in a cradle I made to attach to the side of my desk. I upgraded the memory to double it and the HDD to solid state several years back. It has reached the limits of its upgradeability and so I am in the market for a much newer replacement since it has become inconvenient. It will be another laptop so I can take it out to the shop when it is not in my office.
At the same time I bought mine I bought my wife a MBPro 13” that she used for browsing. Never has had a battery but needs one. Other than that, it keeps going.
My son has a MB and I don’t even know the year, that he bought used in college in ‘02. He still uses it. Must be at least 20 years old or more.
Judging by the over 10 year old Macs I have still running every day then a long time. I sold my 2018 6 core i7 for a little over half what I paid for it, but that was enough to buy a new M1 Mac Mini with 512 SSD. I sold a 2012 Upgraded Mac Pro that brought a little over the price I paid for the Video card, oh well. Any computer just about will suffice for what I do. I keep some Minis because I am running a legacy software on them, they upgraded the software I am using but it is sort of like AppleWorks 6 that everyone called a downgrade, which it was.
I have the M1 Mini off line most of the time, only have it to keep up with new developments. I can tell when the 2012 Minis are running even at idle they put off significant heat, the M1, I have to actually check to see if it is running because it feels the same running or not. I also purchased three MacBook air models for Wife, Kid and Grand kid. Mostly by selling off some of my intel Macs at a painful discount price.
I have a 2009 iMac with a 4 core i7 chip that I just made usable again by installing an SSD in the DVD drive bay, runs great for most everything that the home user actually does on a computer.
Everyone is not a gamer or videographer, they just do web browsing, email and maybe chat or face time and the 12 year old iMac does that without breaking a sweat. Many power users invade these threads with nonsense that applies to about two percent of users.
I recently bought a M1 Mac Mini with 512 SSD, I have it stacked on top of a 2010 Mini and 2012 Mini. Wife got Turbo Tax and it wouldn't run on my 2017 MacBook Pro, because I am not upgrading to latest O/S because it'll clobber my older apps licensing. Very impressed with the M1 Mini, runs everything no problem, and fast. I keep the older models, each having it's share of older apps and uses. My 2010 Mini is dedicated to 3D printing, the printer ties up the machine for hours at a time. I still use my 2010 and 2011 iPads. No need to toss out perfectly functioning old Macs if you have a need for them, although you should get newer ones after a few years for the newer features. I keep them all networked to share files. (As for cost, selling Apple shares pays for it all.)
I run a 2009 MacPro with 5 8T HDs running in a Soft Raid Pro that I use as my main machine. Have another one I am going to press into service as a Raid drive. I am tired of losing data with the Drobo I have. I have had 5 of them and have 1 still working. Supposed to be able to transfer raid sets from one Drobo to another Drobo but I have never found that to be true. At least with Mac OS running Soft Raid I can replace a drive whenever I want to. I control all the Minis from my Mac Pro, no sweat even the M1. I am beginning to hate Apple’s efforts to protect us. Disabling SIP is a pain now.😀
Been using the same 13-inch, Mid 2012 MacBook Pro since buying it new. Upgraded to 16GB Ram and a 1TB SSD HD and it is more than sufficient for my needs. Might upgrade it if OS upgrades are compelling enough.
Yes. But IMHO the real killer “app” will be when AI becomes actually user-friendly (but subservient) AI. Every man the owner of a digital servant, without the need to know bupkis about his hardware/software. Siri/Alexa on steroids.Of course the tech will also make a “wonderful” “Big Brother” . . .
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