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To: Boogieman

I agree with you that Mystery Babylon is a religious system.

Rev 11:8 (KJV) - “And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.”

Where was the Lord crucified? Jerusalem.
What cities have 7 hills? Rio, Rome, and... Jerusalem. Every Jewish school child learns the names of the 7 hills of Jerusalem.
Jerusalem is also called Babylon, a prostitute, faithless wife, dead vine, etc.
A prostitute or faithless wife is a false religion in the OT if not a ref. to a person like Rahab. Babylon is where the false religions began, then spread, and we have the false Babylonian Talmud and Kabbalah to this day.


9 posted on 02/25/2021 9:42:44 AM PST by guthunde47
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To: guthunde47

Jerusalem is never called Babylon in scriptures. Sodom, yes. Egypt, yes.


11 posted on 02/25/2021 10:25:55 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: guthunde47

“What cities have 7 hills? Rio, Rome, and... Jerusalem. Every Jewish school child learns the names of the 7 hills of Jerusalem.”

Many cities are built on 7 hills:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seven_hills

One not on the list is Neom, Saudi Arabia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neom

According to one blogger (https://nightwatchman.blog/2018/09/18/7-kings-and-7-mountains-of-neom-saudi-arabia/ NOT AN ENDORSEMENT) it is being built on 7 mountains: Jabal Al-Lawz, Jabal Al Qalom, Jabal Maqla, Jabal Ad-Dubbagh, Jabal Harb, Jabal Huwad, and Jabal Shar.

The city is meant to be a city for the whole world and plans to use ocean shipping, among other commerce, as a means to generate wealth.

In Revelation Babylon seems to be both a political and religious system embodied in a specific city. Traditionally, Rome has been the most popular city designated as being symbolized by Babylon. However, many have also said that Babylon will be rebuilt.

Every generation of Christian tends to see prophetic fulfillment in the current events. If we lived in WW2 we certainly would have thought it was the end. Perhaps it is very close, but we cannot know until it actually arrives.

Attempts to identify Babylon, antichrist, and the mark of the beast are very speculative in my opinion. That’s not necessarily bad; we just shouldn’t be too dogmatic about something that the Bible has not made altogether clear.


13 posted on 02/25/2021 10:44:26 AM PST by unlearner (Be ready for war.)
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To: guthunde47

Well, I think “Mystery Babylon” is more than just a general symbol of false religion. It’s a very specific symbol of those who had true faith and then turned apostate, not just pagan religion in general. You can’t be an adulteress unless you were once married and faithful, so just as Jerusalem is once described as a virgin, spotless bride (as the New Jerusalem is as well), Mystery Babylon is the mother of adulteries, as she is where the first faithful bride of God turned away to chase other lovers.


14 posted on 02/25/2021 11:10:39 AM PST by Boogieman
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