Posted on 02/23/2021 9:37:30 AM PST by SecAmndmt
Red state governors are kicking the blue states butts for vaccine distribution, so I don’t think the GOP is inherently anti-vaxx. Globalist liberaltarians, sure, but not your rank and file. Considering that the anti-vaxx capital is Left coast, I would beg to differ with your assessment.
Anecdotal evidence only, but I haven’t had any sort of vaccine since 1975. Haven’t been sick since 1975, except in 1995 when I had either a bad cold or a mild flu.
Was nearly constantly sick every year of my life prior to 1975, bad colds, flu, bronchitus pretty much every other month or so, and chronic asthma, back when I dutifully got every darn injection and took every darn pill they told me to.
“ A large portion of those who refused vaccines are now dead and those that remain are healthy specimens. :(
Speculation.
“I’ll give you one major counterexample to your assertion: polio.”
Confirmation bias drips of your comments and the logical fallacy you cite of the study participant deaths exposes said bias.
Clearly you know nothing of the origins of polio, only that a ‘vaccine’ claims to have eradicated it and, as you point out, is used as the catalyst for selling all the other vaccines under dangerous schedules for developing infants.
But vaxxers will vax. Just don’t coerce me with a shot (I shoot back).
Yep
Ironically (or not) our extended family/friends who number around 50 are almost all pretty health conscious, not obese, don’t eat crap food, etc and somehow despite living almost completely normally neon of us have been sick with covid—as in if we have had it we didn’t know.
This group contains several over 70 and about 20 in their late 60’s
My youngest never has been injected with anything and going on 6 years has never been sick enough to need antibiotics. Also probably has not had even a cup of sugar or wheat in their entire life
“Considering that the anti-vaxx capital is Left coast, I would beg to differ with your assessment.”
In our TX legislature, a majority of Republicans are for choice. I want to say that every single candidate endorsed by Texans for Vaccine Choice was a R. All were elected. TFVC made presentations at the last R state convention. They were told they were not welcome to have a booth or speak at the last D state convention. And it is Democrat run states which are eliminating conscience exemptions. The Republican establishment (GOPe) and the Dems are aligned on this issue.
As to liberals being anti-vax, maybe a few. Every liberal I know is staunchly pro-vaccine. Every single former vaxxer that I know is Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-medical freedom.
It’s rather interesting that while I was writing my (still unpublished) book, I was unable to source any factual data on vaccines whatsoever. All sources were biased pro vaccine and all critical science or write ups were branded conspiracy.
It got my attention, to state the least. After delving into the facts - AND hyperbole - on drinking water quality - including on fluoride - my chapter on water became a second 500-page volume all its own.
I never revisited vaccines, but now I see that there is new information not found by me during research almost 10’years ago.
My general hypothesis correlates with others, that the vaccines or the vaccine schedule itself is causing irreparable harm to children, yet every time vaccines are criticized some JA throws polio in my face like I’m an uninformed liberal Millennial.
I may end up writing a separate volume on vaccines alone after this “virus crisis” passes and fully expose the truth about polio and other faux vaccines on top of others’ work, with my own twist introduced by the parent volume (you’ll know it when it’s published: It will ROCK the medical establishment and bureaucratic adherents).
There are some exaggerations in the claims by the authors.
Are vaccines “unsafe:? Yes, according to the authors.
However, even in the documents it is clear that there are no more unsafe than are all drugs to some degree, with known and as yet “possible” unknown side effects of ANY drug, and difficulties in knowing every particular individuals potential degree of experiencing or not experiencing different side effects on any drug. If the exaggeration of the authors were to be accepted, then no one should take any medical drugs for the same “unsafe” reason the authors say not to take vaccines.
The best answers are the “we don’t know” anwers, but are they sufficient to say ALL vaccines are bad.
The most relevant question asked really should be the main topic and should be supported:
“The authorities have never systematically and broadly compared the long-term health of the vaccine-free who have caught these infections versus the health of those who have been vaccinated for the diseases.”
Such a study would help resolve a question among the current Wuhan Virus concerns - who has and will keep more vital antibody responses to the Wuhan Virus - those who got an infection from it and defeated it one way or another, or those who get a vaccine?
I think there is a false narrative by “the powers that be” that does not give sufficient credit in protecting the community to those who got the virus and defeated it without a vaccine.
So, will this Control Group” survey spawn any equal survey and analysis by anyone else, or will the powers that be try to “ghost bury” it.
The difference between vaccines and those other drugs: vaccines carry the aura of being “mandatory”. But no public health authority or pediatrician will tell you that vaccines are optional.
“It’s rather interesting that while I was writing my (still unpublished) book, I was unable to source any factual data on vaccines whatsoever. All sources were biased pro vaccine and all critical science or write ups were branded conspiracy”
The two books that the pediatrician recommended before my son was born were exactly as you describe. Almost no skurces, just the author’s personal opinions. The so-called antivax books were, for the most part, very well sourced.
In between projects and work, I’ve been reading RFK Jr’s work and become aware of corollary works by others, including the OP.
I’ve been collecting references for some time; I’ll have to revisit this post-’crisis’...assuming that they all haven’t been banished from web servers everywhere (in spite of my offline archiving).
“In between projects and work, I’ve been reading RFK Jr’s work and become aware of corollary works by others, including the OP.”
RFK Jr has, I think, actually been quite reasonable on the issue of vaccines. I personally am far more against most vaccination than he presumably is. Also, he strikes me as approachable, even though I do not agree with him on such things as climate change.
I do know that he met with our state vaccine freedom group here in TX some months ago. Based on my observation, that particular group is large majority a Christian, conservative and Republican organization. He was given a hero’s welcome.
This is from Yahoo, but in my experience it is accurate as to who accepts vaccines more. Again, I do not know how you could possibly think that D states are more antivax, when it is exclusively D states which have recently removed their conscience exemptions. They are trying in R states as well, but it is the D’s and GOPe who are pushing it, not conservatives.
It’s been hard to filter out knowing he drank the climate change Kool-Aid and balance that with obvious confirmation bias on my part, but in contrast to the science he ignores on climate, he seems on the ball in regards to vaccines.
He is, for me at least, merely one part of a web of resources undermining the religion of ‘vaxxers’.
When we went off well water (that we knew was good) when we moved we got a Berkey with the chlorine/fluoride filters and change them as needed
We obviously still get some when we eat out, etc but it’s likely cut our intake of those chemicals by 95%
“When we went off well water (that we knew was good) when we moved we got a Berkey with the chlorine/fluoride filters and change them as needed”
And yet if you were to engage a conventional MD on whether we should be drinking fluoridated water, he’d tell you it is fine. My own pediatrician’s instruction booklet for parents said the same as to using tap water for preparing infant formula. Of course, that position would NOT be based on science, since the only early research on fluoridation (IIRC out of Newburgh NY) did not show that it was “fine”.
My own wellness MD strongly recommends against ingesting or injecting fluoride and mercury. Based on science. See MSDS sheets, now called SDS sheets.
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