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To: FLT-bird

Actually, Marx didn’t even want total government control over the economy. That was more of a means to an end for him. What Marx actually wanted was complete anarchy and destruction for its own sake, a bloodier remake of the Reign of Terror (most likely including the Republican Armies up and out SLAUGHTERING each other during Vendee if they couldn’t so much as even find any enemies just to satiate their bloodlust under General Louis Grignon’s orders.).

Here, let me provide you with some of his quotes spelling this out for you:

“There is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror.”-Marx, Karl, “The Victory of the Counterrevolution in Vienna”, Neue Rheinische Zeitung, November 1848.

“Once we are at the helm, we shall be obliged to reenact the year 1793…”-Marx-Engels Gesamt-Ausgabe, vol. vi pp 503–505, final issue of Neue Rheinische Zeitung, May 18, 1849. Quoted in Thomas G. West, Marx and Lenin, The Claremont Institute

“The vengeance of the people will break forth with such ferocity that not even the year 1793 enables us to envisage it.”-Marx-Engels Gesamt-Ausgabe, vol. vi pp 503–505, final issue of Neue Rheinische Zeitung, May 18, 1849. Quoted in Thomas G. West, Marx and Lenin, The Claremont Institute

And again, going by that site, Lincoln barely had any real indication of reading Marx’s statements directly, at most only glancing through world news stuff, and Marx didn’t even become particularly well known until AFTER Lincoln’s assassination, and based on the private correspondences between Marx and Engels, NOT the ones publicly published to their followers in the press, but the ones intended for themselves alone, they held Lincoln in contempt during the Civil War, and also seemed to think the South was more ripe for civil war).

There’s far more evidence of Thomas Jefferson openly supporting the Jacobins and their sordid actions, up to and including the inhumane slaughter of the guards at Bastille and their regicide, to say little about Vendee, than there was of Lincoln being a closet Marxist (that description belongs to Horace Greeley, who as I said was a disgrace to Republicans).


52 posted on 02/19/2021 5:54:56 PM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e; FLT-bird
otness: "There’s far more evidence of Thomas Jefferson openly supporting the Jacobins and their sordid actions, up to and including the inhumane slaughter of the guards at Bastille and their regicide, to say little about Vendee, than there was of Lincoln being a closet Marxist (that description belongs to Horace Greeley, who as I said was a disgrace to Republicans)."

Right, that bears repeating.
Sadly, our FRiend FLT-bird is incapable of understanding or learning anything outside the scope of his pro-Confederate programming.

But, thanks for trying.

57 posted on 02/21/2021 7:50:17 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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