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A Doctor’s View About The New mRNA Vaccines
American Thinker ^ | 15 Feb, 2021 | Thomas Siler

Posted on 02/15/2021 4:41:57 AM PST by MtnClimber

It’s important to know both what we know about the new vaccines and what we don’t know.

I’ve practiced for 35 years. I am always honest with my patients, even if conversations are difficult or confrontational. I will also be honest about saying “I don’t know.”

SNIP

What do we know about the new TYPE of vaccine being given?

Pfizer and Moderna were the first COVID-19 vaccines to be approved. Both use a new technology called mRNA vaccine, which has never been broadly given to a human population to prevent any disease.

Let that sink in for a moment.

All previous vaccines take a weakened virus or a piece of the virus and inject it into humans to induce an immune response sufficient to prevent a disease. Pfizer’s and Moderna’s vaccines inject mRNA, which is a protein code that instructs the body to make a part of COVID-19’s spike protein that will then induce an immune response.

Our bodies daily use our own mRNA to carry instructions from DNA to make various proteins the body uses. While this new vaccine science sounds intriguing, it has never been tried in humans in this scope. It may be a breathtaking scientific advancement heralding a new path for all vaccines. It may also be less effective or have currently unknown side effects.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: covid; covid19; dnaoperatingsystem; dsj03; vaccine; vaccines
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To: gas_dr

I trust Dr. Simone Gold and my immune system over something that is 99.9% survivable.


41 posted on 02/15/2021 5:34:39 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (president fraud of the divided states of China)
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To: Sirius Lee; MortMan

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42 posted on 02/15/2021 5:39:23 AM PST by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Dr gaslighter as you call him has more than a masters degree in nursing and more than 24 years in practice. i believe i saw 4 years of medical school 4 years of residency and several years of fellowship training. While you may be proud of your educational accomplishments and experience you look petty denigrating the experience of others with more experience than you. i believe you said you are a crna? How much virology, infectious disease and immunology did you get in medical school? oh that’s right none. Because you didn’t go. How many iICU patients have attended on? Oh that’s right. None. How many covid patients? let me guess - none. You want to argue about vaccines that’s one thing. You want to tout your credentials while denigrating those far more learned than you? You look the fool you are


43 posted on 02/15/2021 5:39:51 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: surroundedbyblue

First of all you lead off by insulting me. So any rejoinder is fair game

Secondly your argument that many doctors agree with you is specious. There are many doctors and nurses that support abortion. Does that make it correct? Pointing to group think is perfectly reasonable but still does not make the argument factual.

Thirdly I have 8 more years of training than you do based on what you have said. I never said smarter but my degree has deeper understanding and far more time involved.

What is your masters of nursing in. I assume you are representing your self at an APRN. However there are masters of nursing in education and administration as well. Understanding your line of education and work may help to establish your this far relatively unsupported claims.


44 posted on 02/15/2021 5:39:55 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: HypatiaTaught

I’m glad you trust a widely discredited head of a group that is generally thought to be on the fringe. You are feee to follow whatever harlot you wish.


45 posted on 02/15/2021 5:40:45 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Mom MD

She’s a CRNA. Well that says it all. Of indeed she is a CRNA as an anesthesiologist I can clearly point to her being well being well out of his or her scope of practice.


46 posted on 02/15/2021 5:43:00 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Yes, widely discredited by the same folks(Main Stream A-holes) who discredited the use of Hyrdroxychlorequine.

Turn off the boobtube Doc.


47 posted on 02/15/2021 5:46:21 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (president fraud of the divided states of China)
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To: gas_dr

Out of my scope?

I guess reading research is “out of my scope”. Yeah. Ok. Again....you’re arrogance is on display for all to see.

Coincidentally my husband is an anesthesiologist and also has serious reservations about these “vaccines”. Guess that’s out of his scope too.

Yes we should all stay in our lanes, shouldn’t we, Doctor? So since you’re not a virologist, epidemiologist, or immunologist, I expect that you’ll stop opining on an area of medicine outside your specialty. I mean, that’s your point here, right? I’m unqualified to make judgements about anything outside of nursing and specifically anesthesia? Then if that’s the case, you, too, are unqualified.

You should stop dispensing medical advice to people on Free Republic that pertains to anything other than anesthesia.


48 posted on 02/15/2021 5:48:55 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable. )
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To: HypatiaTaught

I actually get my data from reasonably scientific sources and bedside.
I don’t need the boob tube to tell me my opinion as it appears many people here do.


49 posted on 02/15/2021 5:49:40 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: MtnClimber

The immune system attacks and kills cells expressing viral surface protein.
This may not be a good thing in non—replicating cell populations
(female ova, neural) just a thought


50 posted on 02/15/2021 5:51:29 AM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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To: DugwayDuke

” the fewer who get the vaccine, the longer we stay in virus mitigation mode, ie, masks, quarantines, social distancing, etc,.”

That’s exactly contrary to what everyone including the gubmint is telling us.

Near as I can figure it, there is no benefit to getting the so called vaccine.

The probability of nasty health risks getting the shot exceeds actually getting COVID 19. This includes death.


51 posted on 02/15/2021 5:51:30 AM PST by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: OldGoatCPO

... my body, my choice works both ways.

Always hated that saying
I do not own this body, I have a better thing
Stewardship, and are responsible to the Master

I am very cautious about where I use that pronoun


52 posted on 02/15/2021 5:56:21 AM PST by HangnJudge (Amen (Awomen) brother!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I’m a critical care anesthesiologist fellowship trained and treated over 1000 Covid patients.
I assure you I am well within my lane. However you are well beyond your scope of care as a CRNA. I am sorry. Truth hurts.


53 posted on 02/15/2021 5:57:08 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: All

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54 posted on 02/15/2021 5:58:27 AM PST by PGalt (confirmed: past peak civilization)
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To: DugwayDuke

++++Or, you can also not get it and run the risk of catching the virus. And, the fewer who get the vaccine, the longer we stay in virus mitigation mode, ie, masks, quarantines, social distancing, etc,.++++++

Never let a crisis go to waste-—comes to mind. Already, 70 million had at least one or both injections in the USA. Another 30 million confirmed to have it and per the CDC it’s at least 3X that amount. Do the math-—90 Million, plus 70 million plus 40 (plus) million 18 and younger = approx 200 million “immune”. We’re about 60% there and cases dropping. Probably by late April we should reach “herd immunity” or close to it.
However, they’re talking about masks until 2022...really?
These are the same “gun grabbers” that state “just one more law and that’s it” type of BS. I can guarantee even if it gets down to 50 new total cases a day they will continue calls of lockdowns, masks, etc——the never ending movement of goalposts is their “ends that justify the means”. I do not trust them——

With that being said, I’m sure the vaccine (over all) is a plus, but our government and media is far, FAR more dangerous than this flu.


55 posted on 02/15/2021 5:59:43 AM PST by mikelets456
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To: gas_dr
“I don’t disagree that it is a choice.”

Not necessarily.

As a retiree I’m not directly affected; however, it is alarming to see how many professionals from the healthcare industry to banks to first responders who are, for all intents and purposes, under mandate to get the vaccine.

Refusal would likely negatively impact (if not ruin) their careers.

56 posted on 02/15/2021 6:07:30 AM PST by daler
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To: gas_dr

Are you butthurt? When people get that emotional I question their objectivity.


57 posted on 02/15/2021 6:08:07 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: MtnClimber
The enthusiasm for this vaccination in the population control crowd is another reason for skepticism.

We just had a silent coup d'état. With every coup, is mass genocide.
I believe the corona and its vaccine solve the logistical and PR problems that a bloody genocide would generate.

58 posted on 02/15/2021 6:09:15 AM PST by SisterK (Let the King of my heart Be the fire inside my veins)
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To: gas_dr

You seem to make a lot of assumptions about CRNA practice. I assure you I’m not sitting in a surgery center somewhere slinging propofol for cataracts. My hospital had the most COVID admissions of all the hospitals in my city. While I may not be a CCM attending I’m not sitting here basing my opinions, thoughts, and judgements on zero experiences. I’m glad you’re arrogance though is on display for all to see.


59 posted on 02/15/2021 6:09:51 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable. )
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To: gas_dr

Please cite the sources that discredited the Frontline doctors.

Thank you.


60 posted on 02/15/2021 6:14:00 AM PST by HypatiaTaught (president fraud of the divided states of China)
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