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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Quote~”No. Some adverse events might be caused by vaccination and others might be coincidental and not related to vaccination. Just because an adverse event happened after a person received a vaccine does not mean the vaccine caused the adverse event.”

“VAERS accepts reports of adverse events following vaccination without judging the cause or seriousness of the event. VAERS is not designed to determine if a vaccine caused an adverse event, but it is good at detecting unusual or unexpected patterns of reporting that might indicate possible safety problems that need a closer look.”


So do we agree that if the covid statistics were subjected to the same standards of verification that the overhyped statistics would be lowered greatly?


64 posted on 02/14/2021 3:56:39 PM PST by patriot torch (Ashlie Babbitt-say her name)
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To: patriot torch
"So do we agree that if the covid statistics were subjected to the same standards of verification that the overhyped statistics would be lowered greatly?"

They are. Each individual death requires an investigation. It requires that a US Standard Certificate of Death be filled out, which includes the results of the investigation in Section 32 Part 1, which is where the doctor describes the chain of morbid events leading directly to death from the underlying cause of death to the immediate cause of death.

The US Standard Certificate of Death is here and the official CDC guidelines on classifying deaths as COVID-19 are here.

From those guidelines:

"When determining whether COVID–19 played a role in the cause of death, follow the CDC clinical criteria for evaluating a person under investigation for COVID–19 and, where possible, conduct appropriate laboratory testing using guidance provided by CDC or local health authorities."

And:

"In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible."

And:

"All causal sequences reported in Part I should be logical in terms of time and pathology. For example, reporting “COVID–19” due to “chronic obstructive pulmonary disease” in Part I would be an illogical sequence as COPD cannot cause an infection, although it may increase susceptibility to or exacerbate an infection. In this instance, COVID–19 would be reported in Part I as the UCOD and the COPD in Part II. While there can be reasonable differences in medical opinion concerning a sequence that led to a particular death, the causes should always be provided in a logical sequence from the immediate cause on line a. back to the UCOD on the lowest line used in Part I."

I don't have any particular problem with that. That's common practice for any death reporting. And it requires the use of both testing and medical knowledge along with in-depth investigation as part of the death reporting.

VAERS requires NONE of that. You and I can each go on and submit 10,000 reports of people dying due to the smallpox vaccine right now. Or we can report that we got the COVID-19 vaccine and experienced insomnia and bleeding from the eyes. It's the Wikipedia of vaccine reports. And it says right there on the website that the data is NOT causally linked, has NO investigation performed as part of the VAERS data collection, and has NO confirmation. It specifically states that the data is often inaccurate and incomplete.

So does VAERS stack up against a US Standard Certificate of Death filled out by a doctor or a medical examiner? No, it does not. And conflating the two very different standards of evidence gathering and investigation would be dishonest.

69 posted on 02/14/2021 4:27:53 PM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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