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My Suggestion for Residential Real Property Taxation Reform
02/13/2021 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 02/13/2021 7:48:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin

Currently residential real estate is predominantly taxed based on its estimated market value.

Ad valorum taxation stems from the colonial era when an acre of land far from the Atlantic Ocean was worth less than an acre of land near the Atlantic Ocean. Ad valorum taxation made sense when getting agricultural goods from the hinterlands to coastal city markets was very difficult and expensive.

In 2021, ad valorum taxation creates a great incentive for local governments and others to make residential real estate very expensive. This is clearest in California, where it may cost $700,000 to add a new apartment to the housing stock in San Francisco. When housing becomes prohibitively expensive, massive homeless problems result. Ad valorum taxation creates a lot of misery.

What I propose is to tax residential property primarily based on the square root of its enclosed space in square feet.

A 700 square foot apartment would be assessed at 26.45 tax units, a 1,400 square foot split-level house at 37.42 tax units and a 3,500 square foot mansion at 59.16 tax units.

I feel that the taxation of a residential property should be roughly proportional to the governmental costs of the services, such as public schooling, likely to be provided to its residents.

The square footage would be measured based on the ground level foundation/slab perimeter of the structure or their building plans for ease of tax assessor access and calculation.

A 4,000 square foot Capitol Hill townhouse having a 1,000 square foot basement apartment and 3,000 square foot owners' space would be taxed based on each housing unit, 31.62 tax units and 54.77 tax units, respectively.

A 12,000 square foot apartment building with 12 apartments of various sizes would be taxed on its average unit size, i.e. at 12x31.62 tax units.

Balconies and partially enclosed areas such as carports would basically be taxed based on one-fourth of their square footage and other unheated/unfinished enclosed areas such as garages and cellars based on one-half their square footage, which may be calculated from building plans. More specifically, enclosed areas would be measured/calculated internally and 75% and 50% reductions subtracted from the total square footage.

The public road-fronting footage of the property would be taxed as well at .02 tax units per linear foot, doubled on the first 100. If the property within a subdivision/condo development doesn't front on a public road, the public road frontage shall be apportioned to all the properties in the subdivision/condo development.

To greatly reduce the contestation of assessments, the calculations of a tax assessor accurate to within 2% or one tax unit overall shall be definitive.


TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!; Business/Economy; Education; Reference
KEYWORDS: advalorum; homeless; propertytax; realestate
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To: AbolishCSEU

I think it’s ridiculous how it just keeps going up. Seems nothing can be done other than to sell your home. Then what? Move into an apartment where you have no idea who your neighbors are and what goes on in those apartments such as drugs, parties, etc?

Another thought...if you are at least 65 years of age, some states such as AZ allow you to freeze your taxes from what I understand. Worth checking in to.


41 posted on 02/13/2021 9:33:56 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Brian Griffin

I’ve always felt there should be a law that if they can tax my property based on a bogus assessment of property value, then the city must purchase my property at their assessed price in cash within 30 days of the request. If they think my house is worth $450k when the market says it is only $380k, I’ll happily take that bonus.


42 posted on 02/13/2021 9:43:01 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: pfony1

> The phrase “I’d prefer not to.”, strikes me as simple selfishness. Many people want “free stuff”. Why should they get it? <

I’m a bit confused by your post, to the poInt that I wonder if you read all of my post #2. Or maybe you are responding to the wrong post. At the end of my post I said: “I’d much rather see property taxes abolished, and replaced by some sort of sales tax.“

There is, of course, no free lunch. But property taxes have always struck me as being rather arbitrary. My house is worth $125,000 just because some assessor says so. I very much doubt if I could get that amount should I sell tomorrow.

And property taxes put a real burden on older folks on a fixed income. Better to have some sort of sales tax, as I noted earlier.


43 posted on 02/13/2021 10:02:48 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: T. P. Pole

“..they can tax my property based on a bogus assessment of property value,”

There it is. The Covid has hit the state of Ohio hard moneywise. The state and local bureaucrats are going to find “their” money somehow. We have a rino as governor too, so there’s that. Mike DeWine’s days are numbered though. People are waking up. John Kasich tried to get rid of all the septic tanks in the state as governor. I live in a rural county and am now paying nearly $500 a year for sewer. It has already doubled in just a few short years.


44 posted on 02/13/2021 10:17:14 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: T. P. Pole

> If they think my house is worth $450k when the market says it is only $380k, I’ll happily take that bonus. <

I don’t know what it’s like in your neck of the woods, but the assessors in my county are way ahead of you. My house is assessed at $125,000. I arrived at that number by working backwards from my tax bill

My tax bill says something like $80,000. The county artificially lowers the value, then they put a higher millage on that lower value.

It’s actually pretty clever. Some homeowners think they’re getting away with something, because their homes are assessed “too low”. Meanwhile the county tax officials are laughing all the way to the bank.


45 posted on 02/13/2021 10:30:39 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Brian Griffin
To greatly reduce the contestation of assessments, the calculations of a tax assessor accurate to within 2% or one tax unit overall shall be definitive.

Local government should be under a requirement to pay 90% of the assessed value to the owner with "here's the keys" clause.

After all, they could make their money back plus the 10%, couldn't they?

46 posted on 02/13/2021 10:41:58 AM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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To: Leaning Right

“My house is worth $125,000 just because some assessor says so. I very much doubt if I could get that amount should I sell tomorrow.”

In a booming market such as I have in my Florida county, it is very hard to know the market value of a house.

I don’t know the market value of my house and my guess might be off by $40,000.

My former neighbors were asking $279,000 for their house after buying it for $199,000 and putting in about $40,000 of work. I thought it wouldn’t sell. It sold to the first couple who looked.


47 posted on 02/13/2021 11:36:26 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: kiryandil

The market value in Florida is computed for the time 10 months before the tax bill comes.

The best check on the tax assessor’s work is probably houses listed for sale as of January 1 that sell shortly afterward.

The real estate industry price is only normally obtainable with professional help, so my tax assessor uses about a 12% reduction for commissions, mortgage points and other seller-> buyer help.


48 posted on 02/13/2021 11:42:37 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: hsmomx3

“Seems nothing can be done other than to sell your home.”

I live in Florida and there are protections against market craziness.

Nobody has fixed Florida home insurance craziness yet.


49 posted on 02/13/2021 11:48:42 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

You’re complicating something that can be very simple.

I’m no talking about building costs. I’m talking about how to set a tax rate based on an actual number and multiplier as opposed to someone’s opinion.

Or, if we were to use the actual Appraiser definition: a fair and impartial analysis of the homes value..... or whatever the hell it was when i took the class 25 years ago.

The millage rate is X per square foot.

For example: millage rate is $1 per square foot. You own a 3000sf home. You pay $3000 a year. You own a 1500sf home....$1500 a year. County costs go up due to increases in health care or something, millage rate goes up to $1.02 per square foot. Everyone chips in.

No more squeezing money from folks on one side of town while others, on the other side of town, are untouched. Which is something they have no problem doing where I live unfortunately.

Keep It Simple


50 posted on 02/13/2021 12:17:10 PM PST by qaz123
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To: Brian Griffin

Exactly.

A simple math equation. Everything is on the table. And everyone has skin in the game.


51 posted on 02/13/2021 12:19:25 PM PST by qaz123
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