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My Suggestion for Residential Real Property Taxation Reform
02/13/2021 | Brian Griffin

Posted on 02/13/2021 7:48:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin

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1 posted on 02/13/2021 7:48:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

When your property is taxed (by any method), you no longer own that property. You are just renting it. And the rent is the tax goes to the government.

I’d much rather see property taxes abolished, and replaced by some sort of sales tax.


2 posted on 02/13/2021 7:54:55 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Brian Griffin

A. Define a ‘tax unit’.

B. I have no kids-—never did have any.

I have paid out over 80 years of school taxes in property taxes on homes I have bought/inherited.

I sure would like a refund...........


3 posted on 02/13/2021 7:55:54 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

Schools make up the bulk of our property taxes.


4 posted on 02/13/2021 7:56:34 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Brian Griffin

I like this idea. Apartments do not currently pay a proportionate amount of tax per occupant versus home dwellers. They come in and raise everyone else’s tax for “social goods.”

I think a sales tax is the best form of tax.


5 posted on 02/13/2021 7:56:41 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ridesthemiles

I agree with you and with the schools closed due to COVID, we ALL should get a refund but noooo, our school taxes went up last October.


6 posted on 02/13/2021 7:57:42 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Brian Griffin

Abolish property taxes across the board. It’s an artifact of Feudalism.

If any of it is kept then it should only be on productive land - up until the 1970s the Homestead Exemption was common. It’s still there in many states but is undervalued. In California that was part of the Prop 13 deal, but it should never have been up for debate. Our homes are not a cash cow for local unemployable trash (”politicians”) to milk.

Excise and user fee taxes to pay for actually needed “services” are all that are needed. We don’t need the Teachers Union having a stranglehold on the places we live.


7 posted on 02/13/2021 7:59:30 AM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: Brian Griffin

So it’s “ad valorem.” When the preposition is “ad” (to/toward), the noun that’s the direct object takes the accusative case (-em, -am, -um, for singular) like in “ad hominem.” The ending “-orum” is plural possessive, like in “sanctum sanctorum” (holy of holies).


8 posted on 02/13/2021 8:00:09 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Brian Griffin

You pay tax to keep your home. Stop paying and the government takes your home away, then subsidies you. It makes no sense.


9 posted on 02/13/2021 8:00:44 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Brian Griffin

Nonstarter: low-income housing that accommodates young families, with however many number of parents present, by far woyld be the most costly based on your principle.


10 posted on 02/13/2021 8:02:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Leaning Right

I have to pay over 4 grand in property taxes this year for my OLD 1952 home. Ridiculous.


11 posted on 02/13/2021 8:03:31 AM PST by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: ridesthemiles

“a 1,400 square foot split-level house at 37.42 tax units”

Assume 100 linear feet of public road frontage too, which would have 4 tax units.

The total tax units for the property would be 41.42.

Let’s assume the tax rate is $50/tax unit for property tax year 2022.

The property tax for property tax year 2022 would be $50*41.42 or $2,071.


12 posted on 02/13/2021 8:04:35 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Here’s a better idea. No “taxation” of property.

The property “tax” is an incremental confiscation of the supposed value of your property. At a rate of 3%, the government has taken the full value of your house after 33 years, ignoring inflation. This is understandable, since the statists don’t want you to own anything, but they can’t seize it just yet, so they slice off a piece each year.

This confiscation is cleverly disguised with the use of the term “Mill rate.” The public doesn’t know what a mill is, and so never realizes the actual percentage of their property they are giving to the government.

Their end goal is for you to own nothing, and for the state to own everything. They don’t dare grab your house just yet, but they’re working on it. When they do it, it’ll sound something like “racial equity” or some such nonsense.


13 posted on 02/13/2021 8:07:08 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: irishjuggler

You are right, irishjuggler, it’s not “ad valorum” it’s “ad valorem”.

The square root of stupidity is still stupidity.


14 posted on 02/13/2021 8:09:33 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: Leaning Right

Words from an Ohio auditor to state. “I stand by my values as submitted and have no plans to submit a third tentative abstract raising county wide residential values to 20%.” Ohio F’n Republicans. This guy was looking for a 14% increase, wasn’t enough for the state.


15 posted on 02/13/2021 8:10:04 AM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: irishjuggler

Pardon my mistake.

Ad valorem taxation is the true culprit.


16 posted on 02/13/2021 8:10:22 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Leaning Right

Exactly. I’m paying hundreds of dollars per month in rent on property that I own, most of which goes to a failed public school/indoctrination system. It’s despicable.

My suggestion would be to put a reasonable lifetime cap on all property taxes. $30k would be about right.


17 posted on 02/13/2021 8:11:49 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: peggybac
I have to pay over 4 grand in property taxes this year for my OLD 1952 home. Ridiculous.

I’ll trade tax bills with you.

18 posted on 02/13/2021 8:13:47 AM PST by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: hsmomx3

In NYS it’s schools andedicaid since NYS cost shares Medicaid with counties.


19 posted on 02/13/2021 8:17:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds. )
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To: Brian Griffin

The problem with taxation.

Toll
Tariff
Taxation

Are all the same. It’s declaring that others owe just for the luxury of having access to that which they are being charged a fee to use.

The question of , can we tax or should we tax are long past and now it’s only a question of what and how to tax next.

If we can’t escape the slavery of taxation, it should be tied to the economy in a way that provides instant feed back to the legislators regarding their affect on the economy. The tax should be a fixed rate and only on sales of new , non-essential goods and materials. Every level from the city to the fed should be limited to collect for sales that cross their borders, much like a tariff. That way, their tax schemes will directly reflect the effect they have with in their local economy.

There should be no taxation on transaction within the jurisdictional borders of a city, county, state or Federal Gov. Cities only tax transaction that cross their city limits. The county, state and US Gov would do the same. This would limit Government to only collect taxes on import/export transactions and not US citizens.

Anyway, that’s my opinion.


20 posted on 02/13/2021 8:18:04 AM PST by jmclemore (There Is No Hell For Those Who See God Where Ever They Look. )
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