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1 posted on 02/13/2021 7:48:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

When your property is taxed (by any method), you no longer own that property. You are just renting it. And the rent is the tax goes to the government.

I’d much rather see property taxes abolished, and replaced by some sort of sales tax.


2 posted on 02/13/2021 7:54:55 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Brian Griffin

A. Define a ‘tax unit’.

B. I have no kids-—never did have any.

I have paid out over 80 years of school taxes in property taxes on homes I have bought/inherited.

I sure would like a refund...........


3 posted on 02/13/2021 7:55:54 AM PST by ridesthemiles ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

Schools make up the bulk of our property taxes.


4 posted on 02/13/2021 7:56:34 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: Brian Griffin

I like this idea. Apartments do not currently pay a proportionate amount of tax per occupant versus home dwellers. They come in and raise everyone else’s tax for “social goods.”

I think a sales tax is the best form of tax.


5 posted on 02/13/2021 7:56:41 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Abolish property taxes across the board. It’s an artifact of Feudalism.

If any of it is kept then it should only be on productive land - up until the 1970s the Homestead Exemption was common. It’s still there in many states but is undervalued. In California that was part of the Prop 13 deal, but it should never have been up for debate. Our homes are not a cash cow for local unemployable trash (”politicians”) to milk.

Excise and user fee taxes to pay for actually needed “services” are all that are needed. We don’t need the Teachers Union having a stranglehold on the places we live.


7 posted on 02/13/2021 7:59:30 AM PST by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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So it’s “ad valorem.” When the preposition is “ad” (to/toward), the noun that’s the direct object takes the accusative case (-em, -am, -um, for singular) like in “ad hominem.” The ending “-orum” is plural possessive, like in “sanctum sanctorum” (holy of holies).


8 posted on 02/13/2021 8:00:09 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Brian Griffin

You pay tax to keep your home. Stop paying and the government takes your home away, then subsidies you. It makes no sense.


9 posted on 02/13/2021 8:00:44 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Brian Griffin

Nonstarter: low-income housing that accommodates young families, with however many number of parents present, by far woyld be the most costly based on your principle.


10 posted on 02/13/2021 8:02:58 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Brian Griffin

Here’s a better idea. No “taxation” of property.

The property “tax” is an incremental confiscation of the supposed value of your property. At a rate of 3%, the government has taken the full value of your house after 33 years, ignoring inflation. This is understandable, since the statists don’t want you to own anything, but they can’t seize it just yet, so they slice off a piece each year.

This confiscation is cleverly disguised with the use of the term “Mill rate.” The public doesn’t know what a mill is, and so never realizes the actual percentage of their property they are giving to the government.

Their end goal is for you to own nothing, and for the state to own everything. They don’t dare grab your house just yet, but they’re working on it. When they do it, it’ll sound something like “racial equity” or some such nonsense.


13 posted on 02/13/2021 8:07:08 AM PST by I want the USA back (The nation is in the grips of hysterical insanity, as usual.)
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To: Brian Griffin

The problem with taxation.

Toll
Tariff
Taxation

Are all the same. It’s declaring that others owe just for the luxury of having access to that which they are being charged a fee to use.

The question of , can we tax or should we tax are long past and now it’s only a question of what and how to tax next.

If we can’t escape the slavery of taxation, it should be tied to the economy in a way that provides instant feed back to the legislators regarding their affect on the economy. The tax should be a fixed rate and only on sales of new , non-essential goods and materials. Every level from the city to the fed should be limited to collect for sales that cross their borders, much like a tariff. That way, their tax schemes will directly reflect the effect they have with in their local economy.

There should be no taxation on transaction within the jurisdictional borders of a city, county, state or Federal Gov. Cities only tax transaction that cross their city limits. The county, state and US Gov would do the same. This would limit Government to only collect taxes on import/export transactions and not US citizens.

Anyway, that’s my opinion.


20 posted on 02/13/2021 8:18:04 AM PST by jmclemore (There Is No Hell For Those Who See God Where Ever They Look. )
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To: Brian Griffin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax


22 posted on 02/13/2021 8:21:28 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Trust the plan of the 17th letter of the English alphabet!)
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To: Brian Griffin

I feel that the taxation of a residential property should be roughly proportional to the governmental costs of the services, such as public schooling, likely to be provided to its residents.


Everything should be Fee For Service. And it would be simple to “enforce”. Your insurance company would require certain things. You want insurance against theft, fire, vandalism, etc etc etc...You’ll get it all, anything you want, as soon as you show us where you paid for the cops, firemen, emt’s, etc. You don’t want to pay for the cops? Cool, if your house is broken into and they take everything down to the last spoon, you’re on your own.

No pay, no spray: Firefighters let home burn

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39516346#:~:text=Firefighters%20in%20rural%20Tennessee%20let%20a%20home%20burn,fire%2C%20along%20with%20three%20dogs%20and%20a%20cat.

If that won’t work then a simple math equation....Square footage x a defined multiplier.....everyone is taxed at the same rate. People on the lower end of the spectrum live in a smaller home, they’ll pay less taxes than the rich guy on the other side of town in a 4000sf home. Simple. Easy.

Taxes need to be raised, they’re raised for everyone. Not some arbitrary determination based on what they county appraiser and tax assessor thinks someone should pay and can afford, as happened to me.

When we look at our tax bills, everything is itemized. Some folks need to put a “little” more in the kitty to help those less fortunate to help offset some, I’m completely ok with that. But when the tax assessor wants more money and knows that they can’t raise the millage rate, all they do is miraculously tell you your house is worth more money. Complete and utter bulls*t. Then it’s up to you to challenge that estimate and show that it is in fact, NOT, worth all that money.

I was told after my hearing, that I would have to take the county to court, for a fee of $200 and......”I’d basically be suing my neighbors”.

I laugh when people are cheery that their assessments go up. Well, so do your taxes. And what are they going up for? So the town/city/county can steal more of your money for their pet projects.

First question....are there more services needed? No. Do you need more cops, firemen, EMTs, teachers? No. In fact the neighborhood has never been safer and the calls for service have gone down. Good, absolutely no reason for the increase in taxes.


23 posted on 02/13/2021 8:22:36 AM PST by qaz123
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To: Brian Griffin

Abolish property taxes. The government was never intended to be our lord and master.


30 posted on 02/13/2021 8:36:34 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789! )
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To: Brian Griffin

My suggestion is to ban all taxes on personal assets. Period.


31 posted on 02/13/2021 8:37:19 AM PST by MercyFlush (Senator Joseph McCarthy was right. )
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I’ve always felt there should be a law that if they can tax my property based on a bogus assessment of property value, then the city must purchase my property at their assessed price in cash within 30 days of the request. If they think my house is worth $450k when the market says it is only $380k, I’ll happily take that bonus.


42 posted on 02/13/2021 9:43:01 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: Brian Griffin
To greatly reduce the contestation of assessments, the calculations of a tax assessor accurate to within 2% or one tax unit overall shall be definitive.

Local government should be under a requirement to pay 90% of the assessed value to the owner with "here's the keys" clause.

After all, they could make their money back plus the 10%, couldn't they?

46 posted on 02/13/2021 10:41:58 AM PST by kiryandil (New Movie: The Assassination Of Ashli Babbitt By The Anonymous Coward)
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