Posted on 02/04/2021 4:27:39 AM PST by MtnClimber
Why the Democrats’ lack of interest in free speech and their reliance on force?
My father often said that persuasion is better than force. I doubt he knew how universally true that is.
You’ve probably heard many times someone say there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans. That is just plain wrong. The choice of persuasion or force is the central difference between the Republican and Democrat parties. For the most part Republicans dislike the use of force and Democrats dislike the use of persuasion, especially persuasion in the form of free speech.
Why the Democrats’ lack of interest in free speech and their reliance on force? They have no confidence in the strength and soundness of their ideas. Most of their policies are counterproductive disasters. They don’t know how to be persuasive. It’s too hard for them. Force is their default. Their intolerance of free speech has become painfully clear -- witness the cancel culture, censorship, and the lifetime lockout of Donald Trump from Twitter. Censorship prevents and cancels opportunities for persuasion. Democrat tech oligarchs, in particular, hate persuasion. They fear it. How the tech tyrants have chosen to use their power shows a degree of arrogance beyond anything ever seen in America. Their lust for domination knows no bounds.
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I still can’t stand either one. I hate all politics. I guess they’re right when they say it’s like watching sausage being made.
I think Force wins over Persuasion unless there is a mechanism that punishes the use of Force.
Once upon a time the Rule of Law and the Constitution acted to punish force, fraud or coercion. I don’t think we have that anymore. I think force, fraud and coercion win the day. What is the countermeasure? Electing better politicians? Criticizing these people on Facebook or Twitter? Ballot box and soap box are gone. We live under tyranny and we’re not going to persuade the tyrants to walk away.
The republicans are the democrat’s Apologists
That difference, i.e., persuasion v. force, used to be true. Now they’re both the same. Look at McConnell, Cheney, etc., who are forcing their constituents to accept the most horrible things. There’s nothing to do with what’s good for the citizens; it’s all about them and who’s shoving the proverbial envelopes across the table to them.
A guy who prefers force and a guy who prefers persuasion walk into a bar. The force guy punches the persuasion guy in the face. The persuasion guy falls down, and the force guy steals his wallet and leaves. Persuasion guy comes to. When they tell him what has happened, he persuades everyone in the bar that force guy was in the wrong. Force guy comes back with an AR15 and shoots the lot of them, then bemoans the rampant gun violence. Nobody can argue with that. The end.
I am with you 100%. However, we should keep this quote by Leon Trotsky in mind (as odious as it is to quote a Communist):
"You may not be interested in war politics, but war politics is interested in you."
The world owes an immeasurable debt to President Trump for getting the Republican half of the Uniparty to expose themselves as working alongside the Democrat half against U.S. citizens.
A “debate” like this is just a distraction. A controlled, fake, never ending political contest designed to keep us occupied, both right and left, while the DS pursues its $trillions. I’m done playing the game. If no MAGA candidate is available for me to vote for, I’ll sit the election out.
Nice guys finish last.
There was a discussion on Free Republic on war and conflict as it relates to Leftists, and I thought this applies to the fundamental differences between Leftists and Conservatives.
I am a history enthusiast, and there is one thing in particular about war and conflict that I have concluded:
War and Conflict are in our nature as human beings. In people who have the inclination, it can be controlled, and it can be suppressed, but it is always there.
And the problem is, while there are many people who fancy themselves as virtuous and capable of “mastering” the impulses to violence and domination of others, there are just as many people to whom “mastering” the impulses of violence and domination means the exact opposite, that is, to practice and perfect them.
In these cases, the people who master and suppress those inclinations to violence and domination, become the prey of those who wish to practice and perfect them.
These “virtuous” people are always Leftists. They are always the ones who think that if a man is evil, it is because society has made them evil. They are always the people who think that if there were no poverty, ignorance, or disease, and that all resources were shared equally, that those people with an inclination to domination and violence would somehow be cured of it, and there would be Utopia.
And this is one of the key views that clearly separate Leftists from Conservatives: We believe evil is innate in humans, and they do not.
We believe that Evil exists, we must be vigilant for it, be on our guard against it, and be prepared to fight it when we see it. We believe that Evil has a component of personal responsibility to it, and that for order to be maintained, people must be prepared to call it out and punish it. We believe that as long as there are humans, Evil will be with us always, and we will always have to man the ramparts against it.
Leftists believe that Man causes Evil, that people can be cured of it, and that it can be eradicated to achieve their Utopia. To them, calling out Evil and punishing it is itself Evil, and creates more Evil. Leftists believe people are not responsible for their evil (unless, of course, they are conservatives, in which case everything is Evil and the individual is responsible for all of it real or imagined) and expecting it in human behavior is cynical, wrong, and counterproductive. They believe that if they can achieve their Utopia, war and conflict will vanish.
In the prism of war, we believe that there are worse things than a peace in which you are a subservient slave with no liberty, and this is foremost in our minds.
They believe that avoiding conflict and warfare is the most important thing, and that living as a subservient slave is a more virtuous thing than engaging in battle to defend liberty. (It is important to understand that they feel this way, but only as long as they are the rulers and not the subservient slaves with no liberty. When they are deprived of their liberty, they dislike it as much as anyone else.)
Conservatives believe the the best deterrent to armed conflict is to actually be prepared to fight if needed, be willing to fight as needed, and to communicate that preparedness fight to defend our liberty and values to those who would wish to deprive us of them. In summary, we believe that sometimes, one must fight and die to defend our liberty and values.
To Leftists, this concept is completely unintuitive and alien. Leftists believe that ALL conflict can be resolved, that enemies can be reasoned with, that preparing and being ready to fight if needed is a waste of resources and also invites aggression, and that peace at any price is preferable to armed conflict.
The fact that Leftists refuse to either know about or understand the lessons of history means that they do not understand human behavior, and will always have their throat exposed when an enemy appears with evil intent, they are sheep to the slaughter, and can only depend on Conservatives and conservative values to rescue them.
This aspect of Leftist behavior is baffling to me, since as I once heard someone say something like “One can almost understand this attitude of appeasement in a figure like Neville Chamberlain who, unlike modern day Leftists, didn’t have himself to hold up as an example of how wrong and misguided appeasing evil aggressors can be.”
“If no MAGA candidate is available for me to vote for, I’ll sit the election out.”
Ditto.
“The republicans are the democrat’s Apologists”
Most republicans are just democrats to won’t admit it to themselves. RINOs.
I like conservatives.
OH PLEASE! We all know there’s no difference between Republicans and Democrats, they’re all the same.
Hmmm....
Then why are we so mad about the election being stolen and Biden’s Executive Orders, or the soon-to-come gun grab, or the open borders?
I’m confused.
What you are saying only applies to rank and file.
Not to the GOPe. Not a dimes worth of difference between people like Mitch McConnell and the Democrats
“As sure as I know anything, I know this: They will try again. Maybe on another world. Maybe on this very ground swept clean. A year from now, 10, they’ll swing back to the belief that they can make people...better. And I do not hold to that.
So no more runnin’.
I aim to misbehave.”
Malcolm Reynolds
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No.
The democrats and republicans are just two cheeks on the same butt.
The sooner Patriots realize that, the better off we’ll be.
Simple as that.
Republicans are the parents who say no on everything. The democrats are the grandparents who accommodate their little bratty grandchildren.
I envy some of my friends who are clueless as to what is going on. I say did you hear the latest and they expect me to be talking about some crazy new food or song. They have no idea what is happening in politics. Not even aware of January 6th. Nice life in a way.
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