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The Down Side to Life in a Supertall Tower: Leaks, Creaks, Breaks
DNYUZ ^ | 3 Feb 2021 | Susan Beachy

Posted on 02/03/2021 6:39:53 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: RoosterRedux
I'm actually looking at it now outside my Lex Ave window.

I remember when it was going up a few years ago and it struck me then as nothing more than a tall skinny Lego brick that added nothing to the NYC skyline. Since then, other towers on 57th Street have surpassed this one and are at least a little more aesthetically pleasing. But I always wonder how much time those who own these high-priced apartments actually spend there.

We might laugh at these people and call them suckers but there are a number of people in the world who are so fabulously wealthy that paying $30m and up for a place in Manhattan that they might only spend a few weeks a year is akin to one of us common folk splurging for dinner at a nice steakhouse.

41 posted on 02/03/2021 7:59:03 AM PST by SamAdams76 (By stealing Trump's second term, the Left gets Trump for 8 more years instead of just four.)
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To: Afterguard
There's no way I would live in a building that tall.

I lived in a highrise in NYC (albeit only on the 16th floor)...gave me the creeps.

42 posted on 02/03/2021 8:00:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: mewzilla

Heated marble floors!
12-6 Ceilings!
10x10 glass!
Private elevator landing!

Sorry, no more free breakfast.

All very nice.
And I’m glad they can sell them, they make a profit and thereby employing the masses.
And the world goes around.


43 posted on 02/03/2021 8:02:21 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: SamAdams76
I used to take clients to Windows on the World for closing dinners. The views were great but you could feel the building sway.

Wouldn't want to spend the night that high up.

44 posted on 02/03/2021 8:08:29 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: PeterPrinciple

“because they are all sellers........”

The prisoner’s dilemma? On a large scale.

Game theory with 103 players and their legal teams.
That’s the ticket!


45 posted on 02/03/2021 8:12:10 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON; Rebelbase; Army Air Corps; bagster; mylife; dp0622; ...
Well, if the dining facility is out of commission, they will all get a table at the nearby Chinese restaurant. They live on Park Avenue!


46 posted on 02/03/2021 8:12:29 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: moovova; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON
George Costanza would have designed it on its side, like this. The elevators would have been little tram cars. The apartments could have had high ceilings and designed like jungle jims.


47 posted on 02/03/2021 8:16:21 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

9/11 cured me of going into tall buildings.


48 posted on 02/03/2021 8:35:29 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I wouldn’t want to go in the bottom floor of that building.


49 posted on 02/03/2021 8:39:30 AM PST by Exit148
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“”The nearly 1,400-foot tower at 432 Park Avenue, briefly the tallest residential building in the world, was the pinnacle of New York’s luxury condo boom half a decade ago, fueled largely by foreign buyers seeking discretion and big returns.””

I’ll save others the trouble of wondering what the heck city they’re talking about - should have excerpted it...


50 posted on 02/03/2021 8:45:10 AM PST by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Larry Lucido

Good golly...hope that was an unoccupied building.


51 posted on 02/03/2021 8:57:11 AM PST by moovova (Yo GOP....we won't forget.)
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To: mewzilla

But apparently toilets aren’t included...?

The preferred view on entering the bathroom is a nice view through a window, perhaps over the tub.

The WC should not be in plain sight.
WC (Water Closet aka toilet).


52 posted on 02/03/2021 8:57:43 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: John S Mosby

Beyond dangerous

Interesting to see the core with shear walls remain intact on the way down.


53 posted on 02/03/2021 9:03:47 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That core was the elevator core with massive poured rebarred sections of hydraulic contrete. The outer sections were blown first, then the interior cores were blown in sequence with much more powerful charges— again in sequence. It left quite a pile tough concrete and rebar in the center pile as you observed.

All the rebar was separated from the concrete mechanically (cannot imagine this) and the rebar was smelted in recycling facilities back to refined steel for various applications.


54 posted on 02/03/2021 9:08:46 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tflabo

“living in a tall building in NYC with creaky elevators, cranky neighbors, paying a fortune for crappy service, hardcore leftist mayor and governor, getting taxed up the wahoo, increasing crime with a glut of fellow moron ‘citizens’ and a declining city economy in fear of Covid — ahhhhh no thanks. “

Perhaps it is in fact the tall buildings that attract the underbelly of society?
Near most tall buildings are big problems?

A friend was deadset against a Billion Dollar addition to a hospital near his home.

He explained that hospitals need a massive 24/7 staff of low-wage workers and they tend to live near the hospital.

It is a fact.


55 posted on 02/03/2021 9:17:06 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: 9YearLurker

The Icarus of housing.

Very nice!
If I can remember it, I will steal it and use it!!!

Because the taller you go, the more interior space is used by building services, elevators, HVAC ducts, stairs...

IMO after a certain point, it is just for bragging rights.
Icarus and his father could use it for a take off-platform.

No problems with a proper glide ratio and make good on their escape from NYC.


56 posted on 02/03/2021 9:26:10 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Who, from outside the area, can name the bridge in the photo, to the right of the building?


57 posted on 02/03/2021 9:29:05 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Lou L

“This is a liberal wet dream with a little more lipstick on it: people piled on top of each other, living in the city, using mass transit, all trying to stay socially distant.”

Most correct!

“Behavioral sink” is a term invented by ethologist John B. Calhoun to describe a collapse in behavior which can result from overcrowding.

Among the males the behavior disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to a pathological withdrawal from which individuals would emerge to eat, drink and move about only when other members of the community were asleep. The social organization of the animals showed equal disruption.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink


58 posted on 02/03/2021 9:29:32 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Could also make for a spectacular suicide/murder jump down if you someone chisel your way out a window.


59 posted on 02/03/2021 9:29:37 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Now that I think of it I wonder whether suicide rates are higher for those who live in moderate highrises, particularly with balconies.


60 posted on 02/03/2021 9:30:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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