Posted on 02/03/2021 6:39:53 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
The nearly 1,400-foot tower at 432 Park Avenue, briefly the tallest residential building in the world, ...
The claims include: millions of dollars of water damage from plumbing and mechanical issues; frequent elevator malfunctions; and walls that creak like the galley of a ship — all of which may be connected to the building’s main selling point: its immense height...
Engineers privy to some of the disputes say many of the same issues are occurring quietly in other new towers.
...identity of virtually all the buyers were concealed by shell companies.
The 96th floor penthouse at the top of the building sold in 2016 for nearly $88 million to a company representing the Saudi retail magnate Fawaz Alhokair.
“They’re still billing it as God’s.gif”>t to the world, and it’s not.”
“They put me in a freight elevator surrounded by steel plates and plywood, with a hard-hat operator,” she said. “That’s how I went up to my hoity-toity apartment before closing.”
“a high-wind condition” stopped an elevator and caused a resident to be “entrapped” on the evening of Oct. 31, 2019 for 1 hour and 25 minutes. Wind sway can cause the cables in the elevator shaft to slap around and lead to slowdowns or shutdowns, according to an engineer who asked not to be named...
Some residents also railed against surging fees at the building’s private restaurant, overseen by the Michelin-star chef, Shaun Hergatt. When the building opened in late 2015, homeowners were required to spend $1,200 a year on the service; in 2021, that requirement jumps to $15,000, despite limited hours of operation because of the pandemic. And breakfast is no longer free.
“Everybody hates each other here,” she said, but, for the most part, residents want to keep the squabbling out of the public eye.
(Excerpt) Read more at dnyuz.com ...
Was this an Art Vandalay designed project?
I heard Community Movie Night with “Towering Inferno” didn’t go over so well.
LOL
I checked out the online brochure and noticed they offer studio apartments. OK, maybe closer to my budget, except they are for servants only.
...the new bus terminal needs a roof support...”Leaning Tower of San Francisco”
I have friends that are deep into those two unfortunate events and spent way too much time reading on them.
Have heard nothing on “The “environmentally” climate controlled building needs window shades and portable heaters”
???
I would enjoy reading anything on EMS(Energy Management Systems/ HVAC) issues; a fun topic.
There is another example from S. Padre Island, TX. Never occupied because the footings of the building were not sunk far enough— built on sand essentially and the re-bar began collapsing.
CDI did he amazing demolition. The Loizeaux family Controlled Demolition. This NY nightmare is a scam, from building to current management. Beyond dangerous.
CDI’s demo film 4 minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaBQ3AkRetI
LOL. Even the folks living in the swanky bits are servants to someone...
Let’s see — living in a tall building in NYC with creaky elevators, cranky neighbors, paying a fortune for crappy service, hardcore leftist mayor and governor, getting taxed up the wahoo, increasing crime with a glut of fellow moron ‘citizens’ and a declining city economy in fear of Covid — ahhhhh no thanks. The views of Manhattan and Central Park must be spectacular though. NY is an expensive pain in da ash. says me, a former NY’er.
We used to be able to build tall buildings and bridges and overpasses.
But that wasn’t good enough.
Now we can’t but other people get preferential hiring.
And inspectors do a better job of looking away.
I worked on the 35th floor of an office building for awhile.
When the fire alarms went off we were not to leave the building. If anything we were to move up one or two floors.
Bad plan.
No. But that same inept crew was hired in Houston to build a bridge AFTER their Florida screwup. And wouldn’t you know it, they screwed up again?
Best post so far today!!!!!
The Icarus of housing.
Ha, and on top of that NY is now a dead city.
This is a tenuous financial situation. Residents who've already purchased their units want the developer to fix things, but they can't make too much noise about it because that will keep other interested buyers from coming in, decreasing their property values.
This is a liberal wet dream with a little more lipstick on it: people piled on top of each other, living in the city, using mass transit, all trying to stay socially distant.
Sounds like the building was designed by a Biden supporting “engineer”.
Time will tell, but it is my opinion, that most of the complaints are simply,”The nature of the beast”
Sometimes called “The bleeding edge”.
If you want the sweetest fruit you need to climb out on the limb.
The plumbing problems?
Workmanship?/Specs?/Design?
IIRC it was on a mechanical floor on an upper elevation?
Mechanical areas are usually surrounded by a parapet/ waterproof(?) area.
Also being on an upper level; lower pressure.
Must have been a catastrophic leak?
When I was a trainee, I ask the crusty old owner, why don’t we use some of the new stuff I learned about.
He said, “I’m not putting my name on unproven crap”.
Twenty years later... I hear about that “new stuff”, failing in far off locations.
Not all of it but a few things.
“I heard Community Movie Night with “Towering Inferno” didn’t go over so well”
Two thumbs up!!!
I haven’t been back to NYC for 21 years. I went to Windows on the World 2 weeks before 9/11. I will never forget the elevator up, the incredible view from the elevator, the most wonderful dinner and the wonderful employees. After that a beautiful ship took us out to see the Statue of Liberty, which made me cry. After 9/11, I can’t get in an elevator for more than 3 floors. I wouldn’t live in that building for $1 billion dollars. I read the article and nearly had a panic attack. Feel sorry for those people that bought an apt there. Just because you are very rich, doesn’t mean you don’t make mistakes.
Erecting a building like that means that everyone is totally dependent on the elevators. No exceptions. Putting oneself in a situation like that is the ultimate stupidity.
Reminiscent of an African savannah termite mound.
Demolition. Yup. I see where this monstrosity is going. Even though I am quite a chicken, I do love to see giant buildings (which are not habitable) go through demolition. It is fascinating how brilliant they do it.
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