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The Truth Revealed About the Deadly 1918 Spanish Flu: It Was Actually Bacterial Pneumonia
winter watch ^ | May 28, 2019 | Russ Winter

Posted on 01/23/2021 12:04:35 PM PST by NachOsten

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To: Maudeen
My grandfather in WWI was about to be thrown overboard because of the illness. God had other plans.

My grandfather volunteered, went through basic training, was sent to France where he caught the Spanish Flu, and then spent the final days of the war in a French hospital. Armistice was declared and he spent a few weeks patrolling at the front after the shooting had stopped and then was put on a transport back home.

41 posted on 01/23/2021 5:36:50 PM PST by CommerceComet (Biden and Harris, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the CCP. )
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To: CommerceComet

A wonderful unselfish generation.


42 posted on 01/23/2021 5:40:46 PM PST by Maudeen (A question to answer, "Will my name be written in the Lamb's Book of Life?" Revelation 20:15)
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To: Maudeen
Nothing to add

If we were friends, I'll call you - you lucky bastard. :-)

Still think there is a diff between military and Army.

Army is a machine, you just cannon fodder.
Mili=small is guerrilla. Small, stealthy, aware, dangerous with the heart in the right place.

Just my 2 cents

43 posted on 01/23/2021 5:49:16 PM PST by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

Sorry. Forgot the /s.


44 posted on 01/23/2021 6:07:00 PM PST by Norski
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To: Maudeen
Maybe one thing.

I served in the commie army - I just turned 19, got drafted.

I was good, not because I believed, but I wanted to be untouchable.
and, god is my witness, I was!

Mine point is, I guess, I was bigger then the Army. I had my platoon, I protected them and we prospered.

I took all the flak. But we were disciplined, we were the best ever in the western Czechoslovakia, as far as artillery goes.

And that is how I became untouchable. I was way too valued to fukk with!

It was hilarious, really was.

Had a Master of weapon, Exceptional Platoon, you name it.

But not because I followed, because I stood up against them and made them understood that I was a better man than, not all, there were some good officers(and with those we looked straight to each other eyes), them!

Just destroyed their egos and made them my puppets( to some degree-you know they could bury me in real sense)

It's been 41 years since, but I bet you anything, they, if they live, still remember me!

That is why I am a militia man!

Small, sharp, well trained by my impulse, unpredictable

45 posted on 01/23/2021 6:17:40 PM PST by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

My Dad was seriously injured in a motorcycle training accident while he was in the Army in early Oct 1918./

He was sent to the hospital in Ft. Riley, Kansas.

His brother came to the hospital about the 18th of Oct/1918 to visit my dad. He returned home and died on 21 Oct 1918. He fit the profile of never being sick until he died from the flu or ????

His cause of death was ruled the Spanish Flu.

In the meantime, my Dad had contracted a pneumonia or the flu. He got the nurses and medics to take his bedding out into the grass on the SW side of the barracks to catch the noon to late afternoon sun. As soon as the sun hit that area, he went out lay in the sun on his bedding.

He drank orange juice from the time he woke up to bedtime.

He supposedly had a mild case of the flu.


46 posted on 01/23/2021 7:40:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Law & order took the last train out of DC and America on election/coup/night, Tues., Nov. 03, 2020!)
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To: NachOsten

Bookmark and Ping.
Thank you for posting this.
Very interesting.


47 posted on 01/23/2021 8:28:05 PM PST by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump. Prayers for PDJT and his loyal supporters.)
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To: NachOsten

Sounds like you are well-prepared for the dark days ahead. Claim Psalm 91 for you and your family. I am as well as my siblings are for their families.


48 posted on 01/23/2021 8:56:44 PM PST by Maudeen (A question to answer, "Will my name be written in the Lamb's Book of Life?" Revelation 20:15)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Jan_Sobieski wrote: “Soldiers receiving the vaccinations became sick with Spanish Flu. Fort Riley was the test group for the experimental vaccinations. Fort Riley is where the Spanish Flu started on March 4”

It has not been conclusively established that the Spanish Flu began at Fort Riley. It could have started in China. It could have been brought to Fort Riley by a soldier.
Second, millions who died from the Spanish Flu never came near Fort Riley or received this vaccination.
Third, there were multiple attempts to attribute the Spanish Flu to a bacteria. All failed miserably.
Seriously, you should read:
The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest by John Barry.
or
Pale Rider: The Spanish Flu of 1918 and How It Changed the World by Laura Spinney.

As I stated earlier, there is no doubt that many who died during this pandemic died from Pneumonia. However, the pneumonia was an opportunistic infection that took advantage of the damage caused by the H1N1 virus.


49 posted on 01/24/2021 5:14:45 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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“As I stated earlier, there is no doubt that many who died during this pandemic died from Pneumonia. However, the pneumonia was an opportunistic infection that took advantage of the damage caused by the H1N1 virus.”

Thank you for injecting some sanity into a thread that had nearly gone completely off the rails.


50 posted on 01/24/2021 10:16:35 AM PST by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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riverdawg wrote: “Thank you for injecting some sanity into a thread that had nearly gone completely off the rails.”

The anti-vaxxers have a tendency to go “off the rails”. They should take the time to read the books I’ve identified. It would ‘vaccinate’ them providing resistance to idiotic theories such as this.

The problem with the anti-vaxxers is this: they will believe anything that reinforces their existing prejudices against any/all vaccines. The good thing about that is it reinforces my theory that stupidity is a self-correcting problem.


51 posted on 01/24/2021 10:22:18 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Biden - Not My President!)
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52 posted on 01/26/2021 12:18:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

You need a Bigfoot, Yeti and Mermaid ping list. This belongs there.
In the world of reality:
“While the 1918 H1N1 virus has been synthesized and evaluated, the properties that made it so devastating are not well understood. With no vaccine to protect against influenza infection and no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections that can be associated with influenza infections, control efforts worldwide were limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings, which were applied unevenly.”
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm


53 posted on 01/26/2021 1:11:12 PM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

There is a homosexual minority humpback whale ping list.

But a Bigfoot, Yeti and Mermaid ping list? Haven’t seen one of those...


54 posted on 01/26/2021 3:19:09 PM PST by null and void (My personal pronoun is "He He")
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To: null and void

“homosexual minority humpback whale” — funny, but just so wrong. ;^)


55 posted on 01/26/2021 4:07:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It’s also real.


56 posted on 01/26/2021 4:12:12 PM PST by null and void (My personal pronoun is "He He")
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To: DugwayDuke; Jan_Sobieski; Varda; riverdog

And the flu recurs around the same time every year. The strains always cycle through and originate in China.

Another book is Gina Kolata’s “Flu”; she notes that the 1918 flu was the most devastating in the middle of escalating outbreaks, with the 1917 being worse than the 1916, the 1920 being less bad than the 1919.

There were some killer flu epidemics in the 19th century as well, the Spanish Lady just eclipsed them all.


57 posted on 01/26/2021 4:12:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: DugwayDuke
That’s why Rockefeller Foundation’s Transforming Health Systems (THS) initiative is committed to broadening access to affordable health services in developing countries, with the ultimate goal of doubling by 2020 the number of people achieving close to universal coverage.

Just stick your head in the sand. 'Cause that's where it belongs...

58 posted on 01/26/2021 4:38:24 PM PST by NachOsten
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To: Varda
Hey, little man!

You know it all!

I can not call you stupid, per bosses instruction.Butt, I love people, to be called, know it all!

Seems like an North American Trade....

KNOW IT ALL!

Good foe you, mr. know it all!

Well, I get it, hard to swallow your own poison, don't blame you, Mr. Kno it all

Chew on this, MR, KNOW IT ALL!

59 posted on 01/26/2021 6:10:33 PM PST by NachOsten
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To: Varda
BTW, What are you a Graduate from the Global University?

Well, Good on You!

I can not express my gratitude (did I spelled it right?), maybe not!

Never mind...

Give us your WISDOM, us deprived of information.

Actually you win! I do not know how to end this without calling you the name I think would be proper!

60 posted on 01/26/2021 6:21:52 PM PST by NachOsten
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