[MtnClimber]

No one trusts them anymore. No one likes to be lied to. The problem starts with the Murdoch kiddies. Then there is the board of directors with such loathsome people as Paul Ryan. Then is the smirking Cristy Wallace and the ignorant Juan Williams. Even if some reporters are honest they appear to be muzzled. Are they liars or saying what it takes to keep their jobs. Who knows. The problem is MUCH, MUCH bigger than the Arizona early call.

[FreedomPoster]

There you have it. People have seen thru Fox’s leftist slant. Sure, there areca few good people still there, but policy at the highest level is driven by Leftists.

[Alberta's Child]

Anyone who employs that crooked slob Donna Brazile should be run out of business forever.

[cyn]

// No one trusts them anymore. No one likes to be lied to. ... The problem is MUCH, MUCH bigger than the Arizona early call. //

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From article: // Both have been lightning rods for conservatives since the election. // Yeah - as you say. They’re still willfully ignorant or wishful thinking

[Presbyterian Reporter]

“””Even if some reporters are honest they appear to be muzzled.”””

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Great observation.

[Travis McGee]

The only good to come from the ritual suicide of FOX News is that millions are now aware of and watching OANN and NewsMax.

[Cboldt]

The people you see on air are actors. Just like Hollywood actors. And just like Hollywood actors they have personal opinions which may or may not align with the character they are playing.

Another symptom of the problem is that the public sees Hollywood as a source of fact and structure material. As a oracle with sound social and moral principle.

The people have abandoned moral absolutes, and as is the case with human nature, is invested in justifying their own sinful conduct and thought.

[nathanbedford]

Hurting financially, Fox News is obviously taking half measures to restore its place at the apex.

Even before Fox lost half its viewership as a result of its shenanigans on election eve and afterwards, boycotts and simple intimidation of advertisers had brought the network to a place where the single most popular and effective voice on television, Tucker Carlson, was reduced to support by low-level advertisers selling vegetable slicers.

Therefore, Fox today is a place where half measures will avail nothing nor is it at all clear that the "Murdoch kiddies" will permit the real top- to- bottom, root and branch Reform that alone can save Fox.

But the problem at Fox News is not just economics, the problem also involves the network's attachment to the establishment core of the Republican Party. The Republican base has filed for divorce from the establishment thus posing a real problem for Fox. Does it stay with the establishment in the hope of recovering big money advertisers but risk hemorrhaging more viewers Indispensable for advertising revenue?

Does Fox divorce itself from Mitch McConnell and the rest, go to war against George Soros - a member of the Murdoch kiddies' social class, make peace with the base and struggle on with the Second rank advertisers?

Apparently, Fox has chosen a middle ground: superficial reform.

In a way the need to reform Fox News (or if you prefer, abandon it altogether) parallels the need to reform or abandon the Republican Party itself. Which way to go is not as simple as it appears on first inspection.

Both vehicles, the Republican Party and Fox News, represent powerful organs of communication and organization which are hugely expensive and and normatively time-consuming to reproduce. Therefore, if real reform of both of these institutions is possible, it is simply prudent to retain them and clean them rather than to abandon them.

A charismatic leader, such as Roger Ailes was for Fox News and Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump were for the Republican Party, could conceivably lead movements big enough to replace these institutions. Perhaps Trump could do it.

In my view, reform is better than replacement because of practical considerations. But I am not deceived, reform is probably illusory and there is probably no historic path open to us but a revolutionary upheaval deposing of both the Republican Party and Fox News.

That road will be attenuated at best and it will come at a time when we need these institutions not just for political survival but for the very survival of our liberties as well as our survival of the threat from China. We are in a battle for mind control, the Democrats want to control them we want to liberated minds. The Democrats are well on the way to taking away both of These two vital institutions and Thereby dominating every vital American avenue of mind control.

That is why the choice of abandonment or reform must be carefully considered.

[joesbucks]

So who’s muzzled?

[Getready]

Agreed. Kill their business. Cut the cable or propaganda provider system. Tell them why and never go back. Even if they regret their intentional lies. They only deserve to be crushed.

[CaptainK]

This article, like many others that analyze what happened on election night at FOX, leaves out an important point.

Viewers were not upset just at the premature Arizona call, they were upset that at the same time FOX refused to make the call for Florida and Ohio where the polls had closed and Trump was the obvious winner. What better way to demoralize Trump voters by calling a state that was still voting with a razor thin margin. Even CNN and MSNBC didn’t have the nerve to call Arizona that early.

This blatant act of voter suppression did not go unnoticed by the FOX audience. The contemptuous decision by the nevertrumpers at FOX blew up in their faces and no amount of firings will bring back the audience that saw and understood their game that night.