[Carry me back]

It’s legal. Most everyone in the early days believed it was. It’s a very important part of being free imo.

[Kevmo]

What they have discovered is that it is not a “very important part of being free” but it is a very important part of gaslighting the precariat class into thinking it is still free. It is simple gaslighting. They succeeded spectactularly.

[BroJoeK]

Carry me back: "It’s legal.
Most everyone in the early days believed it was.
It’s a very important part of being free imo."

That's totally wrong, bass-ackwards.
The real truth is every Founding President faced his own secession crisis, in one form or another, and all acted & spoke against it.

1. George Washington raised an army to put down the Whiskey Rebellion, put Virginia Gen. Light Horse Harry Lee in charge, rebels dispersed.
   Washington also sent armies to fight against British supported Indians in the US Northwest Territories.

2. John Adams passed the Alien & Sedition Acts to prevent pro-French Revolution guillotining Americans from sedition in the Quazi-War against France.

3. Thomas Jefferson had his former VP, Aaron Burr, arrested and tried for treason when Burr attempted to secede Louisiana.

4. James Madison, during the War of 1812, moved US Army troops off the frontier with Canada to oppose New England secessionists after the 1814 Hartford Convention.

5. James Monroe, even during the "Era of Good Feelings" faced threats of secession & civil war (always linked together) over what became the Missouri Compromise.
   "You have kindled a fire which all the waters of the ocean cannot put out, which seas of blood can only extinguish."
   — Representative Thomas W. Cobb of Georgia

   "If a dissolution of the Union must take place, let it be so!
   If civil war, which gentlemen so much threaten, must come, I can only say, let it come!"
   — Representative James Tallmadge Jr. of New York:

6. Andrew Jackson, most famously, faced down South Carolina secessionists in 1830, over the "Tariff of Abominations", threatened to hang any man supporting nullification or secession, also quoted as saying:
   "John Calhoun, if you secede from my nation I will secede your head from the rest of your body..."

   "In his December 1832 Annual Message to Congress, Jackson called for another reduction of the tariff, but he also vowed to suppress any rebellion.[120]
   Days later, Jackson issued his Proclamation to the People of South Carolina, which strongly denied the right of states to nullify federal laws or secede.[121]
   Jackson ordered the unionist South Carolina leader, Joel Roberts Poinsett, to organize a posse to suppress any rebellion, and promised Poinsett that 50,000 soldiers would be dispatched if any rebellion did break out.[122]"

Every Founding President faced rebellion, insurrection, secession and/or treason and all Founders opposed such forces.