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The media are lying about Trump’s phone call with Raffensperger
American Thinker ^ | 4 Jan, 2021 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 01/04/2021 4:21:14 AM PST by MtnClimber

The mainstream media and Georgia’s Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed – falsely -- showed Trump begging Raffensperger to fraudulently find enough votes for Trump to win. In fact, Trump called Raffensperger to try to get him to stop obstructing the fraud investigation. As Trump explained during the call, evidence proves Trump won Georgia by a massive margin, only to have victory stolen through equally massive fraud. Trump sought to avoid litigation forcing Raffensperger to do his job, which is to make at least a minimal effort to clear away enough fraud to allow Trump his actual and honest victory in Georgia.

Here are just two examples of the media’s dishonest claim that Trump was trying to force Raffensperger to commit fraud. As you can see, their premise is that there is no evidence of fraud, so any action on Trump’s part to claim victory is itself fraud. Theirs is a deliberate example of circular logic, where their premise and conclusion are the same thing.

Washington Post: “The Washington Post obtained a recording of the conversation in which Trump alternately berated Raffensperger, tried to flatter him, begged him to act and threatened him with vague criminal consequences if the secretary of state refused to pursue his false claims, at one point warning that Raffensperger was taking ‘a big risk.’”

CNN: “In excerpts of the stunning one-hour phone call Saturday, Trump lambasted his fellow Republican for refusing to falsely say that he won the election in Georgia and repeatedly touted baseless claims of election fraud.”

Here’s what really happened on the phone call. First, Trump wasn’t the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 01/04/2021 4:21:14 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

The left-wing media is beyond disgusting. This crap was even on Fox News Network.


2 posted on 01/04/2021 4:21:24 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

at this point its pretty obvious we’ve had a foreign coup disguised as a US Presidential election

it was “beautifully” and precisely timed. In fact it is about the ONLY POSSIBLE way to have taken down the USA


3 posted on 01/04/2021 4:26:53 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: MtnClimber

I have my own fact checking system. In the case of this thread’s subject, if WaPo or CNN are reporting it, its automatically a lie.

The end is approaching and could be fatal for the deep state is Trump secures a second term. They will do anything and everything they can to stop him. Right now this lie they are spreading is child’s play. It will get worse.


4 posted on 01/04/2021 4:28:16 AM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: MtnClimber

I would recommend that everyone read the transcript, which was posted in this thread below - it’s very eye-opening, for anyone who doubted there was a cover-up going on.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3921220/posts

It’s so obvious that Raffensperger & Co. have been stalling and stonewalling any audit of the ballots. At one point, someone on Trump’s team says they have a hard count of over 20,000+ fraudulent votes - dead voters, out of state voters, etc, enough to decertify, and then someone on the Georgia team says that isn’t correct, but they won’t explain why, nor offer any proof! It’s actually so damning, I can almost see why they needed to get out in front of this with their own spin, before someone on Trump’s side released the transcript themselves.


5 posted on 01/04/2021 4:33:19 AM PST by FreedomVsControl
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To: mo

And, when the media outlets SELECTIVELY edit recordings to protect a criminal or a previously agreed to criminal plot, they should be held responsible.

RICO tort WaPo!


6 posted on 01/04/2021 4:36:37 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (If there be WAR in the offing, let it begin HERE. With ME.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

includes the abominable Zurcher’s “analysis”!

BBC: 29m ago: US election: Trump tells Georgia election official to ‘find’ votes to overturn Biden win
Vice-President-elect Kamala Harris called Mr Trump’s comments “a bold abuse of power”...

Since the 3 November vote, Mr Trump has been making unsubstantiated allegations of widespread electoral fraud...

All 10 living former US defence secretaries have urged President Trump not to question the election results in an opinion piece for the Washington Post. The group also said he should not involve the military in voting disputes, an idea that’s been mooted by some of Mr Trump’s supporters...

The president then threatened the official with possible legal consequences...

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, a Democrat, said Mr Trump was “unhinged and dangerous” and that his call to Mr Raffensperger merited “nothing less than a criminal investigation”...
Moderate Republican Adam Kinzinger also tweeted: “This is absolutely appalling. To every member of Congress considering objecting to the election results, you cannot - in light of this - do so with a clean conscience.”

Analysis by Anthony Zurcher, BBC North America reporter
In the final weeks of his presidency, Donald Trump is struggling for ways to hold on to power. His latest act was to berate, beg and threaten Georgia’s secretary of state to “find” the votes necessary to move the state to his column.
Never mind that there has been no credible evidence of substantive fraud...

The call is reminiscent of Trump’s “I would like you to do us a favour, though” conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelinsky, where he pressured and cajoled a foreign leader for political help.
That contact resulted in Trump’s impeachment. The brazenness of Trump’s Saturday call may make it more difficult for the president to rally political support to his cause...
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55524838

BBC even lies in pidgin english!

BBC: Trump tapes: US President Donald Trump tell Georgia election official Brad Raffensperger to ‘find’ votes, cancel Joe Biden win
7 hours wey don pass
Dem don record di US President, Donald Trump, as im bin dey tell Georgia top election official to “find” enough votes to cancel di election result...
Since di 3 November vote, Mr Trump don dey allege say wuru-wuru dey di election without providing any evidence...
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-55526726


7 posted on 01/04/2021 4:39:44 AM PST by MAGAthon
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To: MtnClimber

Listened to whole call last evening. This story is a crock of crap. Trump said he believes he won state by hundreds of thousands but he only needs for them to use about 13000 which can easily be found urging them to go to the most visible fraudulent ones.


8 posted on 01/04/2021 4:42:48 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: MtnClimber

Disgusting work. What do these outlets even report anymore, some hacks opinion?


9 posted on 01/04/2021 4:47:56 AM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking. )
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To: MtnClimber
This crap was even of course on Fox News Network.

Fixed it.

10 posted on 01/04/2021 4:48:13 AM PST by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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>I>All 10 living former US defence secretaries have urged President Trump not to question the election results

It makes no difference what these has-beens think! The only defsec who matters is the one who controls the guns. And Trump should absolutely use that option to prevent the United States from falling to a fraudulent power. His oath was that he would defend the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC...

11 posted on 01/04/2021 4:53:15 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: MtnClimber

The same lying propagandist media that refused to report on the Hunter Biden phone calls and emails because ‘they might influence the election’ are reporting on a taped phone call to influence Tuesday’s Georgia/US Senate election.


12 posted on 01/04/2021 4:56:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Who built the cages, Joe?)
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To: MtnClimber

The media have been on easy street since 2016. Trump was Media Gold. Now the Media will have to become media anthropologists going forward or Die themselves.


13 posted on 01/04/2021 5:02:33 AM PST by cnsmom
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To: MtnClimber

Yep.

Too much disinformation.


14 posted on 01/04/2021 5:39:43 AM PST by sauropod (Cui bono? I will not comply.)
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To: MtnClimber

First, Trump wasn’t the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys.


Nice to see Pence AWOL again. He actually was on the ballot. You would think he would be using his mainline GOP gravitas in support of POTUS. Not.


15 posted on 01/04/2021 5:42:53 AM PST by lodi90
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Give the chain of custody for the Fulton County votes, Raffensperger, you rat.


16 posted on 01/04/2021 6:02:31 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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I listened to it and Trump sound like a saint compared to Pencil neck Shiff and his gang.
17 posted on 01/04/2021 6:23:29 AM PST by jetson (chiwowa)
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Trump’s Call With Georgia State Secretary Brad Raffensperger Actually Reveals A President Deep Into Detail, With Establishment Republicans Dismissive, Unwilling, And Rejecting Transparency
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3921220/posts

[Trump Lawyer Cleta] Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, one of the things that we have been, Alex can talk about this, we talked about it, and I don’t know whether the information has been conveyed to your office, but I think what the president is saying, and what we’ve been trying to do is to say, look, the court is not acting on our petition. They haven’t even assigned a judge. But the people of Georgia and the people of America have a right to know the answers. And you have data and records that we don’t have access to.

And you can keep telling us and making public statement that you investigated this and nothing to see here. But we don’t know about that. All we know is what you tell us. What I don’t understand is why wouldn’t it be in everyone’s best interest to try to get to the bottom, compare the numbers, you know, if you say, because . . . to try to be able to get to the truth because we don’t have any way of confirming what you’re telling us. You tell us that you had an investigation at the State Farm Arena. I don’t have any report. I’ve never seen a report of investigation. I don’t know that is. I’ve been pretty involved in this, and I don’t know. And that’s just one of 25 categories. And it doesn’t even. And as I, as the president said, we haven’t even gotten into the Dominion issue. That’s not part of our case. It’s not part of, we just didn’t feel as though we had any to be able to develop —


18 posted on 01/04/2021 7:11:31 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: redfreedom

Consider adding NYT to your list. They are the ones who started this.


19 posted on 01/04/2021 7:54:05 AM PST by Widget Jr
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Trump: No, no you don’t. No, no you don’t. You don’t have. Not even close. You’re off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you’re off on these numbers, and these numbers can’t be just — well, why wont? — Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn’t want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. So we had our experts there, they weren’t allowed into the room. But we didn’t want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn’t give it to us. Now, why aren’t we doing signature — and why can’t it be open to the public?

And why can’t we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don’t want to find anything? They don’t want to find, you know they don’t want to find anything. Someday you’ll tell me the reason why, because I don’t understand your reasoning, but someday you’ll tell me the reason why. But why don’t you want to find?


20 posted on 01/04/2021 8:26:50 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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