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Don’t expect Mike Pence to save us on January 6
American Thinker ^ | 1 Jan, 2021 | Carol Brown

Posted on 01/01/2021 5:02:03 AM PST by MtnClimber

But not for the reasons you may think.

There’s been a lot written about the power Vice President Pence has to turn the stolen election around on January 6. Many commentators on various sites (including AT) have weighed in, some expressing hope, while other have expressed doubt Pence would do the right thing.

But it appears all of this is moot, as Bill Jacobson, founder of Legal Insurrection writes:

A claim has circulated widely in the past few days that Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, has the power and discretion to reject certifications. If Pence had such power and chose to exercise it, it would be over, but he doesn’t.

Jacobson cites relevant language from the Constitution (Article II, Section I, after the 12th Amendment) to support his assertion and then summarizes.

Note the words. “Shall … open all the Certificates” and “the Votes shall then be counted.” Shall is mandatory, there is no discretion. The certificates must be opened by Pence, and the votes must be counted (it’s unclear who does the counting, but the votes must be counted regardless). No Vice President (whether Mike Pence, Al Gore or future VP Kamala Harris) performing the function of opening the votes has discretion to reject votes. No Vice President has authority to accept votes presented through some extra-constitutional other process.

There is an interesting legal question of what would happen if a state authority presented conflicting votes — for example the legislature certified one set of electors but the executive branch certified a different set — but that has not happened here. No state authority has certified more than one set of electors.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: communism; insurrection; noshitsherlock; realitysettingin
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To: RummyChick
The term ‘troll’ now has the potency of ‘racist,’ ‘Hitler’ and ‘homophobe’ on this forum. It means nothing.
41 posted on 01/01/2021 7:56:40 AM PST by deadrock (<img src="WIDTH420WIDTH420.jpeg" width="420">)
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To: JonPreston
Travis, it's realistic comments like this that cause angst among the trust the plan KooKs.

Where ya been, Preston?

Missed ya lots.


42 posted on 01/01/2021 8:04:46 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: MtnClimber
My prediction is that the steal stands, but then the Democrats so overreach that even the Democrat base begins to have buyer's remorse by 2022.

The MSM will be torn between continuing to propagandize for the ruling class or take the side of the disillusioned base who are their viewers. My guess here is that they will side with the ruling class, of which they think themselves a part.

Then, in 2022, the Democrat base will be where we were in 2015.

-PJ

43 posted on 01/01/2021 8:11:08 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: bagster
Where ya been, Preston?

Stop flame-bating, troll.

44 posted on 01/01/2021 8:28:28 AM PST by JonPreston (Crash the whole thing down)
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To: AFB-XYZ

According to the straight wording of the Constitution, Pence has the power. According to later established law, he doesn’t. The Gohmert suit was filed to get clarification.


45 posted on 01/01/2021 8:36:29 AM PST by elenvee ("...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..")
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To: JonPreston
Stop flame-bating, troll.

Are you sure its not 'flame baiting'?

Noun. flamebait (uncountable) (Internet slang) Content in an online forum, such as a newsgroup, with the intent of provoking anger, resulting in flames and sometimes flamewars.

Love ya, bro.


46 posted on 01/01/2021 9:03:49 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: Lions Gate

My remarks were stated in sarcasm where I implied I’m sick of the doom & gloomers, so I thought I’d just join in with some farcical predictions.


47 posted on 01/01/2021 9:07:14 AM PST by redfreedom (Member of Agent Orange Health Club Since 1969)
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To: redfreedom
Doomers have no sensk a humor.


48 posted on 01/01/2021 9:15:57 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: MtnClimber

Sounds like something greater than the swamp at work? got to go I think my rice is burning.


49 posted on 01/01/2021 9:21:59 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: MtnClimber

Pence isn’t “our guy”.


50 posted on 01/01/2021 1:19:24 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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