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If Pence were DS, Trump would know. Trump has connections in places we could not imagine and he is a very good judge of character. Second, if Trump did know Pence was DS, he would have a plan in place that did not include Pence but we all know Pence is likely an important piece to this effort. Also, if Pence were DS, Trump would have very little to do with him and yet as far as I can tell Pence has played a very active role in the last 4 years. Even now, Pence has been part of Trump’s plan from what I see.
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For this part, I hope I wasn’t too vague - sometimes I cut detail to shorten my post. I’ll try to make this post short(er) than mine tend to be.

I believe President Trump is a fantastic judge of character. I was trying to make the point that I think Pence is an albatross settled upon President Trump, one he can’t easily remove without rocking the ship of state. Theories I’ve read suggest the corrupt GOP forced Pence upon him in exchange for the support in 2016. I believe President Trump has had to carry him without exposing him to make it to 2020 and win.

I don’t consider Pence anywhere near the value of a Jim Jordan or other fighter.

I am praying for discernment. I believe Pence falls into the category of false teacher, and we are not to give them hospitality - so you and I differ on Pence’s friendships with Clintons/Bushes.

Thank you for taking the time to offer reasons. We don’t agree, but so few go beyond stating that he’s Christian, your post is refreshing. Continuing in prayer on this matter.

I think you all make interesting points. And I see where you all are coming from. It could be however, that Pence was ignorant of the depth and breadth of the corruption. (I can’t believe he was corrupted because the derps and NYT types would have outted him to get to Trump — unless Pence was theirs and he was a sleeper, but that is too out there even for me.) I think Trump has educated him and he’s changed.

I listened to Pence’s Turning Point speech from a couple days ago and he was impressive. I can’t believe that performance was fake. Fake would be like McConnell.

Also, Trump doesn’t have the most stellar past in the world and there are plenty of photos of him with bad actors. Like the one at his wedding with the Clintons all chummy. I think one of Trump’s major turning points was around the time that Obama was being exposed as not eligible for the presidency.

Pence’s whole demeanor is pretty reserved. He is the opposite of Trump in about every respect. But, I think that is just his personal culture. He is a Midwesterner after all and Trump is a New Yorker. (Midwesterners have a tough time with the NY/Queens personality type. I’ve red-pilled a lot of my Illinois compadres by telling them they needed to look past the NY-ness of Trump.) It is also possible that Pence was on a personal wait-and-see mission as to who Trump really was.

That being said I do not believe that Pence has what it takes to be President. If he runs, I will not support him during the primary for 2024. I think Cruz (can’t believe I’m saying that) or Pompeo would be better choices.

We shall see how Jan 6 goes. I think it is entirely likely that Pence will reject the electoral college votes from the disputed states which would throw the election to the House. The legal remedies are being severely slow-rolled and it is possible the derps will run out the clock. Pence stands in the position to fix that as President of the Senate. If that fails... things are going get very tense. There isn’t a thinking person out there that believes Biden won, dem or republican. The dems will just lie about it. The future is hard to see right now.

This may be my longest post ever. Sorry for the long-windedness.

Merry Christmas to everyone. God has blessed us mightily. If we hadn’t been exposed to all the things Q posted over these past many months and years, it would be a lot harder to stand tough. I think people are holding the line primarily due to Q. WWG1WGA God wins.