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To: MountainWalker
I challenge anyone to tell me an effective plan to clean it out that doesn’t involve guns and force.

Ultimately, government involves guns and force.

I have yet to see any plan that reliably restores the Republic by guns and force.

I am not saying it is impossible. There are possible ways.

It is simply, extremely, difficult.

If conservatives, or even people who simply have a smidgen of integrity, control enough media reaching the American people, we will win.

So much evil on the other side has been exposed, we are within a hairs width of winning right now.

Nearly half of the people believe the election was stolen.

Get that to 60% and we win. Guns may be necessary, then, but we may win simply because they know we have them, and they abide by election results because of that knowledge.

Almost their entire power is based on lies and deceit. They are having a harder and harder time maintaining that ability.

4 posted on 12/19/2020 3:00:53 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: marktwain
We also forget that the Left is using human shields in that they are hiding behind millions and millions of gullible Americans who they have brainwashed into believing their postmodernist crapola (i.e., reality is what you want it to be, gender is what you feel you are, virtue signaling is moral goodness, etc.).

It is hard to separate the REAL enemy from the human detritus it hides behind.

If we can identify the head of the snake (or even thereabouts), we can save a lot of bullets and bloodshed.

5 posted on 12/19/2020 3:25:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: marktwain

If you could conduct a similar poll in Cuba or China without the respondents’ fear of government payback, they would tell you their government is just as corrupt. Yet, their power is assured.

Course correction through political, peaceful means is getting to be nearly impossible. The national popular vote used to track with the EC almost every time. Now, thanks to wave immigration and education system indoctrination of native children it’s practically out of reach.

The EC basically requires an inside straight draw and a little luck to win. Soon, that too win be out of reach. The left ran a moving corpse and won, with a little late help from their big city ballot fraud factories. Whatever your thoughts are on ballot stuffing, at the days end this Chinese puppet is getting sworn in a month from now. Our moral victory is meaningless.

There may be no feasible plan right now to restore the country through force, but I have yet to see a political plan that really has any chance either.


6 posted on 12/19/2020 3:46:16 AM PST by MountainWalker
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To: marktwain

“Nearly half of the people believe the election was stolen.”

I think it’s more than half. Something like 80% of GOP think it’s stolen, and even 17% of RATs think it was stolen. I don’t know how that shakes out in actual numbers across the board re total population, but it’s huge.


10 posted on 12/19/2020 4:12:45 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free" Galatians 5:1)
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To: marktwain; MountainWalker
I challenge anyone to tell me an effective plan to clean it out that doesn’t involve guns and force. Ultimately, government involves guns and force. -- FReeper mountainwalker

If conservatives, or even people who simply have a smidgen of integrity, control enough media reaching the American people, we will win. -- FReeper mark twain

I wouldn't exactly call it a "plan", but the only way I see to clean things up without war and have freedom, liberty, and prosperity in the future is for the New York Times to "Come to Jesus". Right now, most of the media has almost no integrity - because so many just follow what the New York Times does. BTW, I'm extremely pessimistic that this will happen.

20 posted on 12/19/2020 7:57:00 AM PST by libertylover (Remember: Deep State hated Jesus too.)
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