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"You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas"
vanity | Dec 12, 2020 | Slyfox

Posted on 12/12/2020 10:53:21 AM PST by Slyfox

Davy Crockett's famous quote has a lot of relevance today.

I moved into Texas in 1975 from Michigan. When we moved here there were many people who were conservative who were also democrats. Over the next few years I witnessed an overturn while people moved into Texas.

The larger cities is where Republicans lived while democrats lived outside the cities. The democrats were like I said conservative.

Then in 1980 a real change took place. The democrats realized that they were more in line with the politics of Ronald Reagan and they all began voting that way. So, people in the country realized they were Republican.

As people moved in from various states, the larger cities became more liberal and people in the suburbs and in the country solidified as more Republican.

I remember going to the state house in Austin 1978 and the people I observed were the stereotype of wheeling-dealers smoking cigars and big hats, mostly democrat of the old style, sorta like LBJ but still tended to be conservative.

I went back after the Reagan Revolution in 1985, and gone were the stereotypes and in their place were Republicans in dominance.

Whatever happens with even more people moving in from all over the country, there may be an effect like what happened to me. I realized I was a conservative Republican with slight libertarian leanings.

Texas is economically one of the freest states. That is an attractive thing.

Anyone moving here is going to bump into certain type of people we seem to grow on trees here - people with horse sense who can smell a phony a mile away. I personally know of liberals who left Texas because they had run into too many people who could see right through them and they didn't like that.

One more thing, I have a friend who works for a house builder. She was born and raised in Fort Worth and suffers no fools gladly. When people come into her office to discuss buying a house she semi-casually asks them about their political preference. She said 80% answer conservative and with that she is enthusiastic about selling them a house. She said the other 20% say they are liberal and she works hard to discourage them buying a house.

Even if lots of people move to Texas does not mean Texas will ever become blue, because they all will meet up with the ones with the good, old Texas horse sense.


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To: rolling_stone

8 years later, BJ Clinton won California by 14 points.
How quickly things change.


21 posted on 12/12/2020 12:04:25 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Slyfox

One of my best friends from high school moved to Austin from Ohio about a decade ago. He was a Reagan Republican. He’s now a Bernie supporter, he’s also making a lot of money, I don’t get it.


22 posted on 12/12/2020 12:07:48 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran
moved to Austin from Ohio

Sorry for Texas, but I’m glad he’s no longer in Ohio.

23 posted on 12/12/2020 12:11:57 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
But I grew up in California - it was a conservative state in the '70s and '80s. Things change when hordes of liberals illegals and overseas Chinese move in.

The latter pretty much destroyed Silicon Valley's moderate-to-conservative lean from the 1980s.

24 posted on 12/12/2020 12:12:31 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
But I grew up in California - it was a conservative state in the '70s and '80s.

Like hell it was. I lived in Castro Valley growing up, a suburb about 15 miles south of Berkeley. The HS was politically correct before the term was invented.

My last two months in HS were terrible, all because I was awarded an Army ROTC scholarship. You can't imagine the vitriol I had to put up with. I had teachers say to my face how "disappointed" they were with my decision. The only teacher who publicly supported me was my calculus teacher, a former Jesuit priest who taught at Marquette. He was thrilled when I told him I was matriculating at Gonzaga.

Of my graduating class of over 550, I had the most valuable scholarship: an academic scholarship that paid all costs, except for housing. My monthly stipend and summer job covered my room and board.

They hated the military in Castro Valley, and I've laughed about it since I left, never to return. I enjoyed experiences that none of my classmates could imagine.

25 posted on 12/12/2020 12:15:10 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: DesertRhino

Everywhere had horse sense until the left took over the Universities and the Government Public School systems and brainwashed everyone with their leftist propaganda.


26 posted on 12/12/2020 12:22:05 PM PST by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: Dr. Sivana
And don’t forget Forth Worthless Jim Wright.

How can we forget the next generation, like Beto, the Irish Hispanic?

27 posted on 12/12/2020 12:34:09 PM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Night Hides Not

Like hell it was. I lived in Castro Valley growing up, a suburb about 15 miles south of Berkeley. The HS was politically correct before the term was invented.


Agree. That East Bay area was always heavily Democrats. There were some GOP pockets over the east bay hills in your time frame but those are gone now. Suburban Sacramento use to be solidly conservative, too. No more. Some of the rural areas of Norcal still are but that’s just not many people.


28 posted on 12/12/2020 12:34:18 PM PST by lodi90
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To: nascarnation

I hope they’ll invite other states to join them — with proper political vetting — and leave the Democrat wasteland behind with no one to do the work.


29 posted on 12/12/2020 12:50:05 PM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Slyfox

We live in So. California. What part of Texas doesn’t have suffocating humidity and mosquitoes? The Wife and I are as Conservative as it gets and we’re considering Texas. We’ll bring our Constitutional principles and savings. We were looking at Arizona, but their politics are turning Blue by the month. Nevada is the same. Utah maybe, but the Wife vetoes the cold. New Mexico would be nice if not for all the old and new hippies.


30 posted on 12/12/2020 1:05:32 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamo nauseated. Also LGBTQxyz nauseated )
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To: DesertRhino
Romantic as an idea, but they will turn Texas blue.

Trump won Texas by only 6%. Employ the same voter fraud used in Philadelphia, Detroit, Atlanta, etc and Texas turns blue.

Houston and San Antonio can gin up voter registrations and then ensure they all vote Dem.

31 posted on 12/12/2020 1:24:31 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: DesertRhino

“Liberal Wives”
.
You’ve hit on something.


32 posted on 12/12/2020 1:39:55 PM PST by Big Red Badger ("Bats Soup" to "Nuts" Biden,CHINAs' Beind it ALL!)
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To: Big Red Badger

I personally know 5 people who voted for Biden. 4 of them are men. 3 are even straight men. Go figure.


33 posted on 12/12/2020 1:54:18 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

California is not quite as blue as it “votes.” They were among the first victims of organized Democrat election fraud.

I don't know about that. In my neck of the woods there were celebrations in the street, complete with fireworks and shouts of "Freedom!" and "F--- Donald Trump!" on November 7 after the media announced Biden's win. Needless to say, I don't advertise my political views.

34 posted on 12/12/2020 1:57:28 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: FormerFRLurker

It appears that Californians are migrating to other western states, with bad results for those states, AND California is getting more liberal due to the voters who replace them.

A look at the D increase in both branches of the legislature over time shows this.


35 posted on 12/12/2020 2:01:23 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: A Navy Vet
Houston has the worst suffocating humidity. But the native Texans in Houston are very friendly. Anywhere in Texas where there are lots of migrational bats in the summer there will be less mosquitos. I have two Dynatraps and have had good success at keeping mosquitos at bay.

Being from the north and moving to Texas, the first summer I wanted to open all the windows like I did in Michigan. To not be able to open them made me feel claustrophobic. I learned that in summer air conditioning is my best friend. I learned to adapt. June in Dallas is sometimes very humid, but some years it is not. I the fall when hurricane season comes we get a great break in the weather.

As for cold weather, we get about 6 weeks of maybe occasional snow, maybe ice storms, but they don't last long. The weather may hover around 40 and dip lower for any wayward cold weather that wants to take the time to visit.

Freepmail me for more info.

36 posted on 12/12/2020 2:22:51 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: OIFVeteran

Yeah Austin. It is a great funky town. It attracts lots of different people. The libs tend to live in what is called “the donut hole.” That is the very city center. The other types like conservatives live outside the hole in all the suburbs.


37 posted on 12/12/2020 2:26:54 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: icclearly
Your example of Ft. Worth is a one-off. There are still enough of the cowboys left there to not go into the tank.

Ft. Worth is still conservative. It has been generally forgotten by the libs while they casted their eyes towards the even bigger Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio where the libs could more easily be voted into the city councils. The mayor in Ft. Worth is a conservative, which is rare in a big city.

38 posted on 12/12/2020 2:31:53 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: nascarnation
I’ll miss Texas when it secedes, and especially the 38 electoral votes.

I actually don't see that ever happening. Why? Because the conservatives are too patriotic to ever secede.

Governor Sam Houston once said, "Texas can make it without the United States, but the United States can't make it without Texas"

We need America and America needs us.

39 posted on 12/12/2020 2:35:37 PM PST by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: A Navy Vet

Stay west of I-35.


40 posted on 12/12/2020 2:40:03 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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