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"You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas"
vanity | Dec 12, 2020 | Slyfox

Posted on 12/12/2020 10:53:21 AM PST by Slyfox

Davy Crockett's famous quote has a lot of relevance today.

I moved into Texas in 1975 from Michigan. When we moved here there were many people who were conservative who were also democrats. Over the next few years I witnessed an overturn while people moved into Texas.

The larger cities is where Republicans lived while democrats lived outside the cities. The democrats were like I said conservative.

Then in 1980 a real change took place. The democrats realized that they were more in line with the politics of Ronald Reagan and they all began voting that way. So, people in the country realized they were Republican.

As people moved in from various states, the larger cities became more liberal and people in the suburbs and in the country solidified as more Republican.

I remember going to the state house in Austin 1978 and the people I observed were the stereotype of wheeling-dealers smoking cigars and big hats, mostly democrat of the old style, sorta like LBJ but still tended to be conservative.

I went back after the Reagan Revolution in 1985, and gone were the stereotypes and in their place were Republicans in dominance.

Whatever happens with even more people moving in from all over the country, there may be an effect like what happened to me. I realized I was a conservative Republican with slight libertarian leanings.

Texas is economically one of the freest states. That is an attractive thing.

Anyone moving here is going to bump into certain type of people we seem to grow on trees here - people with horse sense who can smell a phony a mile away. I personally know of liberals who left Texas because they had run into too many people who could see right through them and they didn't like that.

One more thing, I have a friend who works for a house builder. She was born and raised in Fort Worth and suffers no fools gladly. When people come into her office to discuss buying a house she semi-casually asks them about their political preference. She said 80% answer conservative and with that she is enthusiastic about selling them a house. She said the other 20% say they are liberal and she works hard to discourage them buying a house.

Even if lots of people move to Texas does not mean Texas will ever become blue, because they all will meet up with the ones with the good, old Texas horse sense.


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1 posted on 12/12/2020 10:53:21 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox

Ann Richards and Jim Hightower.


2 posted on 12/12/2020 10:58:06 AM PST by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Slyfox

This is an encouraging post. However, I am bothered by the fact that red states often turn reliably blue (California, for example). But you never see the reverse.


3 posted on 12/12/2020 11:00:29 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Molly Ivens


4 posted on 12/12/2020 11:02:07 AM PST by beef (Use a VPN, use Tor, and get a shortwave radio. Oh, and ACAB- All Commies Are Bastards)
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To: Slyfox
Even if lots of people move to Texas does not mean Texas will ever become blue, because they all will meet up with the ones with the good, old Texas horse sense.

I hope you're right (especially since I intend to move to TX by the end of 2021). But I grew up in California - it was a conservative state in the '70s and '80s. Things change when hordes of liberals move in.
5 posted on 12/12/2020 11:04:01 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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My sister recently moved to Joshua, TX from the greater Seattle area, mainly to be nearer her grandkids but also to escape the People's Republic.

Now she's eating out in restaurants with her kids and grandkids and I'm here locked down by a complete idiot/fascist governor.

Why don't I also move?

My kids are here.

6 posted on 12/12/2020 11:05:46 AM PST by PROCON (Molon Labe)
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I’ll miss Texas when it secedes, and especially the 38 electoral votes. That will pretty much lock in Democrats for the POTUS.


7 posted on 12/12/2020 11:06:00 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: beef
Molly Ivens

Booze kills, sometimes prematurely.

8 posted on 12/12/2020 11:10:57 AM PST by nascarnation
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And don’t forget Forth Worthless Jim Wright.

As a counter, John Connolly was one of those Texas Democrats turned Republican. Ron Paul is a Texan with “slightly” libertarian leanings.


9 posted on 12/12/2020 11:11:53 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: nascarnation

Amen, and destroyers the lives of those it doesn’t kill.


10 posted on 12/12/2020 11:17:34 AM PST by Cottonpatch
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To: Slyfox

Not everyone in California is moving to Texas!:

Real Estate Prices Soar During Pandemic, Climbing 25% In Parts Of California

Wednesday, December 9, 2020 | Sacramento, CA

https://www.capradio.org/articles/2020/12/09/real-estate-prices-soar-during-pandemic-climbing-25-in-parts-of-california/


11 posted on 12/12/2020 11:41:09 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Our 2nd Civil War started, Friday, December 11th, 2020! As we do not have real elections anymore!)
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I don’t live in Texas but have spent a lot of time there since about the mid ‘70s. Mostly in the Dallas area and to a lesser extent San Anton & Houston.

I love TX. If I were younger, I would pack my bags tomorrow and GTT. (like Travis, Bowie & Crockett).

TX is like most states in the country. The big cities, for the most part, have all turned dem/progressive/Marxist. I’m talking primarily about their elected officials.

Your example of Ft. Worth is a one-off. There are still enough of the cowboys left there to not go into the tank. But, sooner or later it will likely join the rest — especially with all the progressives showing up after they’ve totally destroyed their old homes.

I spend time in Tampa and have seen the same happen there. FL & TX is where they all want to go.

Just remember, “nothing stays the same.” :-).


12 posted on 12/12/2020 11:50:09 AM PST by icclearly
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My take is that once keeping warm in the winter requires a lot of money or a lot of labor, the freeloaders are gonna be heading south at a pretty good clip.


13 posted on 12/12/2020 11:53:13 AM PST by nascarnation
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Romantic as an idea, but they will turn Texas blue. They ran into the same exact common sense conservative salt of the earth types in Colorado and Arizona too. They don’t win by changing the minds of locals, they win by flooding in and bringing liberal wives.


14 posted on 12/12/2020 11:53:49 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Slyfox

have another 10 beers :)

TX won by only 6 percent.

Which means almost HALF wont want to secede at all.

People here (some) need to jump into the 21st century


15 posted on 12/12/2020 11:54:53 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

California had horsesense people too back in the day. So did Arizona, so did Oregon, So did Arizona, so did Colorado.


16 posted on 12/12/2020 11:55:00 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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California 1984

Reagan 58%
Mondale 41%


17 posted on 12/12/2020 11:57:23 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: Leaning Right

California is not quite as blue as it “votes.” They were among the first victims of organized Democrat election fraud.


18 posted on 12/12/2020 12:00:37 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: nascarnation

in the meentime 10 million illegal aliens 5 million legal skewed the state to gimme dats


19 posted on 12/12/2020 12:01:57 PM PST by rolling_stone ( EAT )
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To: dp0622

And it wasn’t long ago that a huge chunk of New York was hard working salt of the earth too. Imagine telling the Cuomo/DiBlasio ideas to some average New Yorker from just a few short decades ago.


20 posted on 12/12/2020 12:02:36 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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