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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I have watched the people with legal experience chime in across the internet. The SCOTUS has to Docket the case, because they are original jurisdiction for State to State complaints.

That doesn’t mean they have to hear it. The excuse they will likely use to dismiss it, is that of standing. Specifically, are voters in Texas harmed by election Fraud in other states? More to the point, since it isn’t disputed, are citizens in Texas deprived of their right to vote if Pennsylvania rigs an election?

The lawyers say NO. They say that Texas citizens still get representation because they could legally vote for their electors and POTUS. So, the lawsuit lacks standing. Second, what is the remedy even if they are ‘damaged’. The SCOTUS would have to make a ruling to give the election to Trump.

I say that all Americans are disenfranchised by Voter fraud when it comes to Federal elections for Executive Branch POTUS/VPOTUS because we all must comply with ‘Taxation’, Executive Orders, and Military Service. These are all under the executive branch. Yes, so as far as I am concerned, cheating in any state could damage the voting itself (because they believe that the election is going for or against so they don’t vote) or because it leads to those obligations by citizens to the Executive branch. Fraud voting is disenfranchising honest voters in other states, and putting them at risk. Further, Civil Rights laws specifically protect all voters, so that ‘Trump Voters’ aren’t considered 4/5 of a voter and Biden voters are 6/5 of a voter. Finally, as previously determined by the SCOTUS in other rulings, you can’t win an election by Fraud.

The remedy is actually very simple. Simply ruling that the states failed to follow election laws, and they cannot seat electors. Then there are MULTIPLE CONSTITUTIONAL options available. The first is to then force the 12th amendment. The second is to delay of inauguration until March (when it usually occurred anyway) and a re-vote with security on the election.

These remedies DO NOT make Trump POTUS again. The 12th Amendment choices of the State legislators may not fall favorably to Trump. Delayed inauguration, with a new national vote, with security, would again not grant either candidate victory. Both of these are Constitutional remedies, IMHO, the problem with the second is logistical. The Chinese cannot be the vote counters, and they effectively are with dominion software.


20 posted on 12/10/2020 5:23:57 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

States are harmed via the VP who will be deciding vote in Senate if GA run off falls due to fraud


40 posted on 12/10/2020 5:31:36 AM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: Pete Dovgan
The lawyers say NO. They say that Texas citizens still get representation because they could legally vote for their electors and POTUS. So, the lawsuit lacks standing. Second, what is the remedy even if they are ‘damaged’. The SCOTUS would have to make a ruling to give the election to Trump.

This is at its heart an equal protection case. Even though the people in Texas were able to vote, their votes were diluted because Georgia and the other states did not follow the rules. And you should immediately disregard anyone, lawyer or not, who says SCOTUS would have to make a ruling to give the election to Trump. That is the one thing they can't do.

46 posted on 12/10/2020 5:35:44 AM PST by KevinB (Quite literally, whatever the Left touches it ruins.)
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To: Pete Dovgan

That’s all most Americans ever wanted; a fair and HONEST election.

We can handle a loss even though it would be a bitter pill to swallow. What we can’t accept is to have any election stolen like this one clearly was.

I’m 100% convinced this corruption in our elections is how obama won a second term when hardly anyone wanted him in office. The stark difference between the energy for Trump and the lack of energy for obama was obvious to anyone paying attention.

Penalties for voter fraud should be a minimum of 2 years for the first count and 1 year in prison for each following count. Mandatory so leftist judges can’t just slap the hands of these felonious criminals. Prisons could be turned into factories for something to help pay for their incarceration.


47 posted on 12/10/2020 5:38:16 AM PST by Boomer (Leftists/Leftism ruins everything it touches. Leftism is a toxic moral pestilence.)
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To: Pete Dovgan

If they follow the Constitution it’s a slam dunk.

The Constitution puts the power to select the President in the state Legislatures. The Legislatures directly appointed the electors at first.

Over time, the Legislatures ceded some of this authority to voters, by making laws in how they were to vote to help select the electors.

Over further time, state Executive branches, including Governors and Secretaries of State, have violated that trust by not following the laws put forth, and allowed illegal voting to take place.

That is were we are now. Order and law must be restored, including punishment for those who have broken them.

It starts with the Supreme Court taking the power from these crooked Executive branch officials who have allowed illegal votes to flood our system, and restore that power to select the electors back to the state Legislatures.

That may be how future Presidents get chosen. It’s what the founding fathers wanted. And you couldn’t even vote for Legislators unless you owned property. That of course has been Amended, but not the part about Legislatures determining electors.


64 posted on 12/10/2020 6:22:15 AM PST by Golden Eagle (********** MERRY CHRISTMAS ***********)
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