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To: gleeaikin

HcQ and azithromycin was a very rough and first treatment. Clinging to this is somewhat like clinging to vinyl records. It is not as useful as later treatments.

The current and best treatment is ivermectin, doxycycline, simvastatin, Pepcid.

Hcq is probably a useful prophylactic. As for vitamin C D and zinc I have become convinced we should be taking these supplementally each day. But the repeated hammering away at ionophores and infatuation with it is not really all that relevant anymore.


54 posted on 12/09/2020 4:29:37 AM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

For prophylaxis though,, Where to get ivermectin? Docs i think don’t like prescribing 9ff label use for prevention? Ordering from overseas is sketchy at best

Ivermectin does seem like best so far. There is spoked to be a new antiviral that is claim e d to be quite good. Can’t remember name now, begins with an m. But that seems a ways off.


55 posted on 12/09/2020 10:08:13 AM PST by Bob434
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To: gas_dr

Lol DOH, name of drug is subject of thread lol. Got my threads mixed up. Ugh, I’m not paying attention


56 posted on 12/09/2020 10:10:14 AM PST by Bob434
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To: gas_dr; null and void; SeekAndFind; Bob434; bgill; Jane Long; All

I am not clinging to HCQ and Azithromycin. I am clinging to the 3 part concept—Ionophore, in-cell Virus Killer, lung protection. Ivermectin may be a better ionophore than HCQ and probably safer for a few with certain heart issues. Doxycycline may be a better for some patients than Azithromycin because of certain health issues. This is why all 4 drugs are prescription items so doctors can rule out the possible side effects. Are simvastatin and Pepcid ionophores, virus killers, or lung protectors? What is their mechanism of action? If they cannot get into infected cells where Covid is reproducing, how are they effective? If they are virus killers, do they need help getting into infected cells?

Zinc has specific problems getting into cells in large quantities which was the usefulness of HCQ. Apparently Ivermectin has similar utility but I have not seen scientific articles explaining its mechanism of action. Apparently the Koreans tested a number of existing drugs and Kaletra and zinc were 2 virus stoppers that were chosen to use with HCQ. I welcome other possibilities, but have not had time to find the scientific back-up for some of them. So I tend to stick with the ones I have already examined in detail. I welcome new information and scientific links for specific items. I think that for early treatment increases in nutrients like Vitamin C nd D3 may be enough lung protection. Dr. Zelenko has added Quercetin as an over-the-counter substitute for HCQ. You can see his series of links and modifications, and doses below, as well as much information on the fight against efforts to suppress low cost early treatment, and censorship of same.

https://faculty.utrgv.edu/eleftherios.gkioulekas/zelenko/index.html


61 posted on 12/09/2020 3:23:34 PM PST by gleeaikin
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