Posted on 12/04/2020 7:39:58 AM PST by Capt. Tom
It looked like we finally had a return to cruising at the end of October when the CDC lifted the No-Sail-Order. The Conditional sailing framework’s implementation looked to be a hurdle, but not an insurmountable one; indeed, by December, we could be cruising again.
In September, the major cruise lines fought with the CDC about lifting the No-Sail-Order, which director Redfield wanted to extend until February. It took an intervention from the White House to stop the CDC.
How different it has turned out to be. Now we have cruise lines canceling voyages on their own until March, April, and sometimes even May. The CDC has gotten the extension it wanted initially.
The List Is Long And Getting Longer The list of canceled cruises became much longer this week; this is where we stand now and when the major cruise lines plan to set sail again:
Carnival Cruise Line: Carnival Cruise Line has announced cancellations for Miami, Port Canaveral, and Galveston. All voyages are canceled through February 2021. This means operations will now remain on hold until March 2021 at the earliest.
Royal Caribbean Cruise Line: Royal Caribbean cruise ships will not be sailing until March 2021 at the very earliest. Australia sailings are already suspended through April 30, 2021, too.
The new extension also impacts other Royal Caribbean -owned cruise brands, including Celebrity Cruises, Silversea Cruises, and Azamara. Some of the lines will remain on hold for even longer, so check any specifics on their web sites.
The line does have Quantum of the Seas sailing from Singapore for residents and is planning to have Spectrum of the Seas sailing from Shanghai in January.
Norwegian Cruise Line: Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings has canceled all voyages for all of its vessels until February 28. This means ships won’t start to resume operations until March at the very earliest. Most cruise ships in the fleet won’t return until April 2021.
This impacts all the cruise lines owned by Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings, including NCL, Oceania Cruises, and Regent Seven Seas. Most of the smaller lines have already suspended operations through March 31, 2021.
MSC Cruises: MSC has announced that U.S. departures will remain on hold through February 28, 2021. Ships sailing from U.S. ports will not restart until March 2021.
Three MSC cruise ships are based in Florida, including MSC Seaside out of Port Canaveral along with MSC Armonia and MSC Meraviglia out of PortMiami.
Princess Cruises: Princess Cruises has canceled all cruises through March 31, 2021. Princess Cruises will not operate any voyages until April 2021 at the very earliest. Even when cruises do return, it will be a phased-in return.
Holland America Line: Holland America will remain on hold through March 31, which means at the earliest, cruises won’t start to resume until April 2021. Holland America has also removed longer cruises over seven days that depart from the U.S. through November 1, 2021.
The line has canceled all cruise departures from January 1 through March 31, 2021, all cruises of eight days or more that call at a U.S. port through November 1, 2021, and select longer voyages in Asia, Australia/New Zealand, and South America through mid-April 2021. Some departures will be rescheduled to comparable dates in 2022.
How Does This Affect Guests Confidence? Cruise lines have not been holding back on marketing efforts to get guests to book on voyages. Even in October and November, there was no shortage of discounts and affordable cruises to be had. CruiseHive reported on December 1 that Royal Caribbean had more than 70 Caribbean voyages on sale. This was the day before it extended its hold period.
We just have to look at Cruise Hive’s Facebook page comments to see the confidence in the companies has gone down the hill. This is no surprise. The cruising community has always been one of unwavering support for the industry. Yet, even here, the constant cancellations have their effect.
Is this the cruise line’s fault? As Carnival Cruise Line CEO Christine Duffy mentioned in her letter to guests:
“Like other cruise lines, we continue to work to meet the requirements of the CDC. While they provide a path forward to resume operations, it will take time to meet the requirements. The situation continues to evolve, and given the very specific obligations of the CDC Order, we have concluded we must cancel additional cruises.”
The CDC’s framework is slowly but surely proving to be not the savior we all thought it was. It is a condition that is holding back a trillion-dollar industry. If one looks at both the framework and the technical requirements, this is no surprise.
A return to cruising was never going to be easy, unfortunately for those invested in the cruise industry, it is turning in to a task that is virtually impossible.
But obviously that can’t undo the past.
That's for sure, and a person could pick it up on his air flight and vehicle transportation to the cruise ship and it may not show up for days in which case you will be on the cruise ship.
And you know who will be blamed, and shut down. -Tom
And the state of Florida. DeSantis is likely also a target. Add to this the recent minimum wage hike, and Florida is gonna be taking some additional economic hits.
. . . but my premise is that people get vaccinated and wait until the vaccine takes effect before boarding the ship. That, I suppose, takes as much as four weeks.At that point your probability of picking up the virus - even a mild case - from the general population is (using Moderna numbers) only 11 in 15000.
But if the entire population of the cruise ship is similarly inoculated, who aboard ship is going to infect the eleven of 15 thousand cruise line passengers???
Even if you are the one who somehow gets a mild case of it, the likelihood that you’ll give it to someone else who’s been similarly vaccinated is basically bupkis.
The medical staff isn’t terrified because they were vaccinated, and nobody panics. With all on board vaccinated, herd immunity is a sure thing. One case is just - one case.
If the requirement is you have to be vaccinated before going on the cruise, instead of just testing negative, then there is no way they can fill those cruise ships since any people who are young and/or healthy won't voluntarily get vaccinated, and will be excluded. -Tom
And to the original thread add Disney cruise line also cancelling their cruises into 2021, according to Emrys Thakkar on Cruise Hive.-Tom
Excerpt- "Disney cruise ships will have to remain on hold for a little longer as the cruise line has announced it’s extending the suspension on operations through February 28, 2021. This is an extra month added on as the previous extension was until February 2021".
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