Posted on 11/30/2020 12:46:12 PM PST by Vendome
Asses in beds pay the rent.
Thank you for providing data with some context. Are you able to differentiate hospitalizations between those hospitalized with C19 and due/from C19?
Knowing that some hospitals get to capacity from time to time, what did we learn from the 2018 flu season and others about how our hospitals systems efficiently support each other that we are implementing now. Also what additional learning do we have from this flu season around managing capacities within areas and systems?
RE: foreign nationals coming over the boarder from treatment in CA, AZ and TX; would we be/have been better off putting up temporary field hospitals on the Mexico side of the boarder similar to the ones big cities set up early on in sports stadiums? Thanks...
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I work in a rural Hosp.
And I know the big Hosp. around here are NOT maxed out.
Hospitals have effectively lobbied to control expansion for thirty years. Hospitals have to be at 65%+ to break even and at 85% to do well financially. ICU occupancy and critical care occupancy is a separate issue.
The cuts you reference are the trade with hospitals to get their vote but also to ration care like Brits do.
I know for a fact that in May at the height of Covid, Stanford Medical Center was at low occupancy. The issue with Covid was always occupancy rates for Critical Care / ICU type rooms. When the severe cases filled those there was no space for excess that needed isolation, ventilators etc.
Thanks KC Burke. That makes sense.
I’m thinking of Canada and how they have to travel hundreds
of miles to a hospital for certain surgeries.
Limiting access, has been the Left’s plan for some time, and
it’s not related to hospital’s desires.
It’s the thought that if you can’t get in easy, you’ll take
a pass, perhaps die, and keep the overall outlay down.
Wow, it’s a good thing we didn’t visit family last weekend.
We had Thanksgiving dinner at a friend’s house, so I guess we’re safe.
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“The fact of the matter is every year many hospitals fill to capacity, not all do. “
I heard that they like to be about 95% occupied.
The idea of permanent hospitals with permanent staffs running at near capacity and then putting up temporary facilities as needed seems like a good idea. Good job for the National Guard.
Can you give your perspective? First hand beats ‘news’ any day.
during the winter months it’s not unusual to have a hospital at capacity for a couple of days. what is unusual is to be there for an extended period of time as we have been for the last month or so with census still climbing. The other u usual thing is every hospital know of is opening 1 if not more accessory ICUs. I will be attacked again for saying it but the system where I am is under considerable strain and we have about 100 more covid patients hospitalized today than yesterday Fortunately they tend to not be as ill as this spring and the death rate is holding fairly steady despite the rise in cases
Flat during the time period that is not Cold and Flu season. Now we enter another Cold and Flu season, and deaths tick up.
I’m pretty sure that influenza and pneumonia are killing people and these are being marked down as COVID deaths
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I agree.
The US Hospital Health care finance Association has since the 80s diminished the number of hospital beds nationally.
Spare hospital beds were at one time a part of our civil defense. then MBAs made hospital beds profit centers and there has been a shortage since then. This was a purposeful move.
Yep it is staffing that costs the big $$ so hospitals run at 70%-85% census routinely. COVID-19 has drained the "traveller nurse" pool down to nothing. So it isn't a matter of "how many physical beds do they they have", but more a matter of "how many staffed isolation-infectious beds/ICU beds can they operate".
The wife is seeing the same thing in her long term care facilities. More cases but low death rates. She has about 40 facilities in Colorado and all of them have been hit. This past Spring, she only had two that were hit. Of course, with COVID testing being highly unreliable, they’re not sure if it is covid or this upper respiratory that’s got people sick for weeks on end. I have it, and it comes and goes for about 5 weeks now.
Hopefully you get better soon. I actually have a fairly high degree of confidence what is covid and what is it based on clinical presentation and the total constellation of labs. seeing some other stuff but right now most is legitimately covid
Based on your findings, any chance COVID-19 has mutated in any way?
I think it has attenuated and is not as potent. People are not as sick
That’s good to hear. Any chance the attenuation is due to people having previous contact and some immunity?
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