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Why Did New York Have COVID Policy That Killed Elderly Patients?
Mind Matters ^ | November 13, 2020 | Michael Egnor

Posted on 11/16/2020 10:12:17 AM PST by Heartlander

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To: litehaus

No. NY state suffers from EvilGovernorItis.


21 posted on 11/16/2020 10:35:51 AM PST by Little Ray (The Left and Right no longer have anything in common. A House divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“Specifically: why have there been so many NEEDLESS deaths?”

Data is skewed. Our county in Florida has about 40% of deaths in long-term facilities. Many more elderly died at home or at the hospital.

Neighboring counties are at 60%.

Nearly all have comorbidity conditions.


22 posted on 11/16/2020 10:38:19 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Heartlander; All

Many Americans, especially politicians do not realize actions have consequences. This is a perfect example. Another one that is coming to light is defunding the police. No cops... crime goes up. Duh.


23 posted on 11/16/2020 10:39:11 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Heartlander

Homicide is always the tool of choice for the Marxist, it’s SO convenient.


24 posted on 11/16/2020 10:39:22 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Heartlander

To save money on medicare. With the old folks gone, there’s more money for aids care, sex “change” operations, euthanasia, and abortion.


25 posted on 11/16/2020 10:40:26 AM PST by I want the USA back (Social media are the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party. Wholly owned subsidiaries. )
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To: Heartlander

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26 posted on 11/16/2020 10:41:25 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: Heartlander

The State of New York is in financial distress. When Cuomo realized he could get the Federal Gov’t to give him $14,000 for each Covid patient put in a nursing home, he moved them there. Even though the Naval Hospital ship could take 1000 Covid patients and the Javits center could take 4000 Covid patients, Cuomo elected to collect the money from the Feds by moving Covid patients to the nursing homes. He needed the money and did not care that 11,500 elderly nursing patients would die. He needs life in prison.


27 posted on 11/16/2020 10:46:03 AM PST by chopperk (L)
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To: TexasGator

I’m talking more about things like the policies from some governors (e.g. Governor Cuomo) forcing nursing homes to accept known infected patients. And the failure from governors to provide the resources and expertise necessary to protect elderly care facilities staff and residents from infection. And moves like Governor Newsom’s brilliant plan to burn tens of millions of taxpayer dollars putting homeless people up in hotels (indoors, which CDC is high risk) rather than leaving them where they normally are (outdoors, which CDC says is low risk). And why didn’t the states have stockpiles of PPE for their hospital personnel in case of emergency so they could effectively treat patients safely?

Dozens of examples of policies and failures like this point mainly to Democrats who utterly botched their response to this. President Trump did everything he possibly could to give those governors everything they asked for, and despite all the help from the Federal government, these fools still managed to botch this whole thing in the worst possible ways. I think these governors need to be under investigation and indictment for their roles in tens of thousands of criminally negligent homicides.


28 posted on 11/16/2020 10:47:03 AM PST by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: Heartlander; All

Desperate Democrats have been trying to get PDJT out of office by demonizing him, trying to convince voters that his policies on everything, including how to fight COVID-9, show poor leadership, no cost too great including putting elderly at high risk for getting COVID-9 imo.


29 posted on 11/16/2020 10:55:34 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Heartlander

All socialists murder. You are next!!


31 posted on 11/16/2020 11:08:41 AM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party )
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To: Heartlander

Who decides?

Who decides who lives and who dies?

The Governor?

Let’s see his formal decision making process.

He didn’t have one?

Then he doesn’t get to make those decisions.

He gave himself powers that he didn’t have.

That is against the law.


32 posted on 11/16/2020 11:13:41 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: BigEdLB

By reducing the elderly population, Cuomo will save on NYS payments otherwise due to them.

And Coumo can be sure they will all vote Democrat!


33 posted on 11/16/2020 11:20:10 AM PST by pfony1 (All Democrats LIE. )
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To: Heartlander

Two reasons: To save the state a fortune in Medicaid payments to nursing homes and to dilute the elderly, conservative vote.


34 posted on 11/16/2020 11:22:35 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Heartlander

I first learned about triage when I became the Personnel Officer on a military staff. I worked with the medical people.

Triage was a disciplined, reasoned way to utilize finite medical resources.

But triage was used to support THE MISSION.

It wasn’t something some people just decided to do.

The unit existed to conduct missions.

Triage existed to keep the unit functioning so it could conduct missions.

Triage is, I think, one of those military concepts that is hard to transfer to civilian organizations.

Did Cuomo have to use triage to save New York?

No.

Did Cuomo use triage to try to save his political career?

Yes.

That is mass murder.


35 posted on 11/16/2020 11:25:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Cobra64

I think these things are intentional. They want chaos. That’s how they win.

Why else? There is no other logical answer.

And these are not the only questions. Look at a lot of the laws the Left passes. They just don’t make sense.

Conclusion: chaos


36 posted on 11/16/2020 11:39:37 AM PST by Karoo
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To: V K Lee

“What was done is nothing less than forcing the Jewish into the death chambers in concentration camps. No difference whatsoever. Heads should roll.”

And all we can do is wonder what we can do about it, and do nothing, just as the Germans did. And NO, I don’t know what to do either.


37 posted on 11/16/2020 1:52:24 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Heartlander

Never attribute to incompetence what can be explained by simple intent...


38 posted on 11/16/2020 2:08:14 PM PST by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: BigEdLB

I have been saying that it was to save money for months.


39 posted on 11/16/2020 2:12:05 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe b)
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