Posted on 11/08/2020 8:04:58 PM PST by Sense
SCOTUS Filings Update
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3914408/posts
Wasted a couple minutes on the DC+22 states amicus
Two equally stupid arguments:
1. The Electors Clause Provides No Basis To Second-Guess State Courts And Local Actors In Their Interpretation Of State Law
1. States’ Common-Sense Measures Taken In Response To The Coronavirus Pandemic Did Not Introduce Widespread Fraud
Boils down to claiming:
1. The Constitution provides no basis for the Supreme Court to require anyone to comply with the Constitution.
2. There is no evidence fraud occurred... and no reason to believe that facilitating fraud ever enables fraud.
Why are Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel, and Michigan Judge Kevin Elsenheimer trying to prevent the public from seeing the results of an audit of a Dominion voting machine that was used in their state’s election?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3914611/posts
SCOTUS denies Texas over “lack of standing”
An obviously incorrect ruling that, in context, requires they’re saying no one has any justiciable interest in preserving the Constitution... and whether its limits apply to guarantee any of us a Republican form of government.
Under this ruling... we no longer have Constitutional limits that constrain government, nor a Constitutional Republic.
Lin Wood’s lawsuit over Georgia voter fraud docketed with Supreme Court
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3914619/posts
Nothing in this suit will undo the damage done by the prior.
Posted in reply to
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3914781/posts?page=6#6
I agree with you. It is impossible that the people have no right to be heard, in a correct finding by the court.
The nature of the issue in their refusal is key... as it essentially claims both that states have no cognizable interest in sustaining the integrity of the Republic, and that state legislatures have no cognizable interest in courts willing to ensure that the laws and the Constitution are upheld, rather than ignored or altered at will by rogue executives, with the inherently malevolent neglect of judges and Justices. The courts refusal to look at these issues... intrinsically alters the Constitutional balances between the legislative power and a rogue executive hijacking the democratic processes with the blessing of the court... perhaps even more easily enabled under duress, if it is granted now without it. But, it also alters the balance in power between states that do follow the law and the Constitution, and those that do not... giving advantage to that evil, having won power in one state, with a leg up in its efforts seeking to leverage that wrongful control into an ability to alter the whole, destroying the Union.
Having mulled that... I think it is important to recognize that the abject cowardice of the court in the instance is easily reversible error.
That appears true, to me, not only because of the specific consequences of the courts willingness to ignore the problems they’re creating in refusing to address the issue... but, because of the obvious improbability of there being 50 state legislatures plus two chambers of Congress who would be willing to allow the court to have the law be rewritten at will by the executive power, under a court saying that executive usurpation of legislative powers is “not a problem worth hearing”.
That outcome in result, however, is one that is familiar outside the requirements of our Constitution, in nations that do maintain the fiction of having legislative processes they pretend have control over the nation, defining its direction, and its limiting the powers of executives.
When the laws are being ignored, and the consequences of the error threatens to destroy the unity that is enabled only by the compact of states agreeing to be ruled by law... the court must not be allowed to put its error or its self interest above its duty.
The 50 state legislature must amend the Constitution to prevent control of the law being taken from them... while a feckless court opts to stand aside and ignore it happening.
Will the legislatures of the 50 states allow themselves to be converted into the rubber-stamp fictions that empower rogue executives to govern as they will ?
Or, will they require the Court to recognize and follow the law and the Constitution... while refusing the Court that usurpation of power that puts it above the Constitution and the core interest of the people when engulfed in conflict... by disallowing the court from choosing to refuse its duty.
I’ve not begun thinking more... about what it should say... how to craft it... but consider it not only worth doing, but obviously necessary... if the nation is to avoid tyranny.
The same issue in aggregate vs individual choices and behavior is apparent in the opposite, as well... with some being willful and reckless in abuse of power, and others being patient, yet insistent in seeking justice in power.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
Give a solid citizen a firearm... and you might see an increase in hunting, or in target practice, but you don’t expect that to lead immediately to an outbreak of violence at the individual or aggregate level ?
Give an amoral criminal a firearm... and at the individual level you should expect to see a sudden rash of armed robberies, random shootings, and a spike in murders ?
Give an amoral criminal organization the same sort of capacities and latitude... and... you will see what we saw this summer... even while the FBI insisted upon the fiction that “white supremacy” was a mortal threat to the nation... while cities being burned to the ground... didn’t matter ?
Note, nothing has been done, yet, even now, to constrain the violence of the left wing militias ?
So, the issue: how is it that government is deliberately enabling and not resisting the imposition of violence by the militia formed as minions of the criminal and amoral left ?
The left have already deployed and unleashed that militia...
The right have instead maintained fire discipline...
Nothing apparent in the result thus far is predictive of the outcome, were the politicians to be stupid enough to forcibly remand the decision to the people... for resolution outside the legal, Constitutional, elective and representative processes. However, they are right now seeking to “win power” by cheating in elections in order to co-opt the legitimacy of that set of processes ?
The outcome isn’t certain... but the die is being cast in the subversion of the legitimacy that, thus far, still operates to prevent the right from asking its militia to take the field. But, the politicians ARE THAT STUPID... and they ARE proceeding in the attempt to take power and impose control through fraud...
The Supreme Court, ignoring that circumstance, has moved us vastly closer to realizing that need for the decision of the people to be enforced by the people directly...
However... the clear and unfettered enabling of the militia on the left... paired with the refusal of the government to constrain it... should suggest something about the origins and the nature of the issues that any remand for a direct response by the people would need to address...
“The government” has already taken sides, with the left, against the people and against the Constitution... including by enabling that violence against them... and they have done that in spite of the legitimately elected representation not being aligned in any way that should allow enabling that ?
The legislative check on the abuses of executive power has failed... allowing the executive power to be abused in fostering the violence. The legislative check on executive abuses of power, now seen failing to check the corrupting of the law governing elections, while it is under attack... The same problem is apparent in the inability of the Chief Executive to check the rogue powers operating as “the government,” but outside of Constitutional constraint, within his own department...
Clearly, that includes the DOJ, the FBI, and the CIA, at the least... all now proven as failing in their duties, and violating their oaths. But, the problem set is not constrained by the governmental organizational charts ?
The Supreme Court, in refusing to validate the plenary power of legislatures, by failing in insisting the law must be followed... appears it intends to provide a green light to that un-elected usurping power, intending to provide it with a sleight of hand enabling a veneer of legitimacy ? But, in having been forced to do that... have also been exposed in validating that blatant election fraud that clearly is intended to elect that power ?
A proper response... will not see the emergence of armed clashes in the street between militias of the left, and militias of the right... with the government protecting the left.
Rather, a proper response would pit the militia against the source of the problems, rather than its local expression... to seek the isolation of the problem at its source, while restoring legislative power to the legislatures, and the full and proper power of the Executive to the Chief Executive, by removing it from the rogue operators who are now refusing to adhere to both the Constitutional limits to their power, and the requirement that our elected officials control and direct that power.
I’m not advocating that we should be put in that position... but that we should not... And, not advocating that we should be quick to act, rather than patiently seek to enable the system in working properly... while advocating that those in government should do their duty, respect the law and the Constitution, follow their oaths, and the orders of those we elect to issue them... which are the only legitimate orders.
Legitimate power, and legitimate orders, do not proceed from fraudulent elections.
The state legislatures must do their duty, hold executive officers accountable, prevent them succeeding in subverting the law, and do that by any means required. Proving the frauds in hearings... must proceed to actions to prevent them succeeding, while imposing constraints and penalties on the executive and judicial miscreants usurping their power.
The amendment to correct the courts errors...
Should also fix the number of Justices.
Tick, Tock...
Fraud in Michigan Unravels ?
National Security Issue ?
Michigan SOS and Atty Gen Hiding It ?
Focus on Michigan:
The Governor has “surrounded” the capitol with state police in a bid to prevent legislators from meeting to vote an alternate slate of electors...
Report is said to be from the tail end of Bannon’s Warroom live from 10 to 11 today...
Hook set:
Breaking! President Trump Issues Warning – Swing States that Found MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes
[Ed. They “can” certify, but certifying a fraud is a felony, at least, sedition certainly, probably treason... unique mostly in that actually being provable.]
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3915153/posts
Trump Senior Advisor Stephen Miller: “An alternate slate of electors in the contested states is going to vote and we are going to send those results to Congress.”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915336/posts
Forensics proves fraud in Michigan:
Dominion Software Intentionally Designed to Influence Election Results: Michigan Forensics Report - Judge Allows Report to be Published
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915334/posts
Security Group Says It Audited Dominion Voting Machines, Declares Them a ‘National Security Issue’
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915332/posts
National Security Issue ?
Video: US Congressmen Al Green Allegedly Admits They’re Selling Us Out To China & There Is Nothing We Can Do About It
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3899814/posts
Video of the Green assertion is also featured in an X22 report out today...
Powell Alerts SCOTUS of New Evidence Filed in Michigan Case
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915339/posts
Michigan State Police arrest celebrated Democratic official on six felony charges of election fraud
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915349/posts
It’s a “glitch”...
US Treasury breached by hackers backed by foreign government - sources
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915079/posts
It’s a “glitch”...
Ramstein Air Base In Germany Experiences Potential Incoming Missile Scare | It remains unclear exactly who caused the scare and where the supposed launch emanated from.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3915341/posts
It’s a “glitch”...
Gmail, YouTube, Google Docs, and other Google services hit by massive outage...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3915338/posts
China Roundup:
China is being exposed as having infiltrated western companies. Oddly, a search of FR fails to turn up links to a big story out a few days ago showing China has infiltrated a number of major companies in the U.K., even requiring employees to pledge loyalty to communism... but...
Two Million CCP m embers & Spies Exposed and Doxxed
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3915026/posts
CCP ties known to cause cognitive decline ?
Report: Sen. Feinstein Was Asked To Step Down As A Ranking Member Of Senate Judiciary Committee Due To Cognitive Decline
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3914962/posts
Grenell: There Are Mayors, Governors, Senior People — Eric Swalwell Is the Tip of the Iceberg
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3914646/posts
General Flynn to Maria Bartiromo: “We Have Conclusive Evidence of Foreign Influence in US Election Right Now”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3915062/posts
Hunter Biden Raked In $6M In Just Nine Months From Chinese Business Dealings
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3914675/posts
Not shocking...
Attorneys For Hunter Biden and James Biden Refusing to Cooperate with Senate Committees
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3914936/posts
Role of the media ?
Will America Become China’s Vassal?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3914480/posts
Google taken down because...
On Eric Swalwell and China, the low press coverage might just be because of a China-co-opted corporate press
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3914398/posts
Appears to be shaping up as...
The banks and corporations backing Democrats in treason.
Republican’s Sending Alternative Slates of Electors
Georgia, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Nevada... thus far... HAVE sent slates of electors other than those Democrats “certified”... in spite of knowing its fraud.
See the comments in this thread:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915333/posts
China Chest Thumps and Gloats...
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3915417/posts
Michigan again:
Today, the Antrim County report on flagrant fraud in Dominion voting machines continued to gather momentum.
However, the report points out that the Michigan Secretary of State violated Michigan law in requiring data recording the “adjudication” of votes be preserved... She had the data wiped to hide the evidence of fraud. Too bad for her that doing that won’t work.
The Constitution and the law do provide the means for contesting fraudulent elections. A key element in that is presenting competing slates of electors while challenging the legitimacy of those fraudulently elected.
Which provides proper context for considering the action of the Governor of Michigan, today, in deliberately obstructing the rightful actions of the State Legislature, obstructing their legal process of contesting the legitimacy of wrongly chosen electors... by engaging the State Police to deny access to the Capitol to the alternative slate of electors.
The action apparently was paired with threats of arrest being made... directly violating Michigan law, which makes it a felony to wrongly use government power to threaten public officials engaged in rightful conduct of their duty under the law.
Michigan’s Governor now joins the Secretary of State in having crossed that line...
Governor Just SHUT DOWN Vote In Michigan
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3915393/posts
Worth noting there... is that the law defining the date for the electors to conduct their vote... does not trump the Constitution, nor does it have any obvious effect when the failure to meet a deadline in conducting the vote is the direct result of felonies committed by the Governor in attempting to prevent the vote. They tried, today, and failed due to the interference... which doesn’t prevent them succeeding at a later date and sending their electors along to the President of the Senate for consideration... now with the additional issue of the felonies committed in the attempt to prevent them submitting the competing slate of electors, as is their right under the law...
Should get interesting when Pence considers which electors to admit, in light of 3USC6: ...and if there shall have been any final determination in a State in the manner provided for by law of a controversy or contest concerning the appointment of all or any of the electors of such State, it shall be the duty of the executive of such State, as soon as practicable after such determination, to communicate under the seal of the State to the Archivist of the United States a certificate of such determination in form and manner as the same shall have been made...
In Michigan... the controversy was “resolved” by the Governor committing a felony to prevent the controversy being heard.
That probably won’t go over well...
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