Posted on 11/08/2020 6:11:28 AM PST by GeorgianaCavendish
Has anyone given thought to the conundrum of a Harris Biden presidency for the Democrats? The situation that the Dems are in is not an ideal position for long term growth nor a successful presidency. Here is why:
1) At least 70 million Americans voted for Trump. A large percentage of these people love him and genuinely like him in spite of his imperfections. He is their hero.
The many Democrats and their supporters have been calling these people racists, bigots, criminals, and have been doing it, while destroying cities. This is not sitting well with regular Americans.
If Biden is propped up as President (with a more than likely 25th Amendment coming to play), there are still 70 million people who voted for Trump who love him, think he was cheated out of the Presidency, and have ever growing evidence that it happened. The evidence isn't the "birth certificate" issue of the Obama years. There is photo, video and affidavit evidence available from several states and will continue to grow as the weeks go by.
So, large portions of the US will not believe that Biden is the legitimate, legal president due to extensive voter fraud.
2) Biden has to appease his Leftist supporters. The base of the Democrat party seems to be a demographic of socialists and communists, whom like spoiled children, will temper tantrum their way to get what they want.
Americans have shown by voting in other elections this year, that they are rejecting the left's agenda. Democrats have been caught acknowledging that the leftist agenda is destroying the Democrat Party in terms of political votes. Any slightly off-of-center mandate will assuredly upset and anger millions upon millions of Americans. This will further empower the right.
People are angry and anything Biden/ Harris does will activate the Republican base who believe the Democrat position in the executive is illegitimate.
3) Midterm elections are two years away. Republicans do very well in off-year elections. Democrats know that Republicans out vote Democrats during these times, and historically these off years have been when Republicans have gained hold of the House and the Senate, and retain their majorities in state legislatures.
Any unconstitutional, socialist mandate done by Biden Harris will be seen as illegitimate and may cause an overwhelming shift in the House and possibly the Senate. This would be very bad for the Democrats.
4) The next steal will be the Senate runoff races, because without the Senate they can't ram things through Congress (assuming Dems still have a slight hold on the House). They can't nominate judges and they can't pass laws without the Senate (it's almost like the Founders knew what they were doing, eh?). Senate approval is a glorious thing.
All they have is the executive mandate, which can be damning.... But remember how many judges have been and will be out on the courts in the next months. Donald Trump and the Senate Republicans have done a beautiful thing. Any mandate will have legal challenges, with textualists and originalist on the benches.
5) Republican legislatures in states with voter fraud issues can address this fraud problem if they have the testicular fortitude (we'll see.... Balls seem to be in short supply these days). However, there is a lot of attention on this. 70 million people are pissed off, and these are not antifa and BLM supporters. They run businesses, they are public servants, they have money, they follow the laws, etc. They are the silent majority.
There is likely to be some push back involving Federalism at the state level.
6) Any draconian mandates will take time to enforce. Is the FBI really going to be driving around arresting people for not wearing masks and not quarantining? No, they are too busy posting fake messages trying to divert people away from Q and Anon websites, molesting women, faking evidence to do this. Some in the FBI might actually do legitimate work, but there isn't a federal police force with enough manpower to do this in general. They are going to do things via executive fiat in the executive agencies. This could be bad.... But...
There is a bit of a Legal SNAFU for the Democrats: Gorsuch in his lower court days, has decided against the "Chevron" defense doctorine. The Chevron Defense is an argument that courts give deference to the fact-finding and decision making of administrative agencies. What does this mean? If SCOTUS overturns this doctrine, it would mean that every time an administrative agency prosecutes a party, if that party appeals it to the federal courts it is a whole new trial. That whole new trial means that you don't have the bias of a Biden Harris administration policy from the agency. It also means that regulations aren't given the deference they are in the agencies. This creates legal pathways for Americans to get around oppressive executive mandates and the CFR (Code of Federal Regulations).
Add in that there would be legal challenges, with injunctions from individuals and states over ANY mandate that violates the Constitition. These legal battles take time. Consider the volume of court trials at the Federal dockets, injunctions and stay orders. It could be months if not years for some of the mandates to go through.
Plus, people may simply not follow the mandates. It happens all the time.
Conclusion Biden Harris and the Democrats have a quagmire. The everyday lay Democrats don't have any clue of this, but most certainly those who are looking forward understand that the Democrats are in a damned if they do damned if they don't situation. If they don't appease their base, there may be serious ramifications in terms of violence or the destruction of private property, like we've seen in the past months. If they do appease their base, there are 70 million Republicans who are pissed off that the Democrats stole an election and are passing such hordenous mandates. Biden, in their eyes, is not a legitimate president. Republicans may be angry and they may be bitter, but these are not emotions to make fun of. Bitterness is a great motivator, and it can drive people to do extraordinary things. A bitter Republican base is likely to vote for more Republicans to go to the House and to the Senate in 2 years. This would put Republicans in a substantial position to impeach both a president and a vice president if their were sufficient legal cause (remember Spiro Agnew, he wasn't impeached but he was forced to resign for corruption). Republicans majorities, if sufficient, can also get around Vetos.
You can't build a coalition around this. The long term doesn't look good for the Dems, even if they successfully STEAL the election.
Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe they don't want Biden to be president and want to upend society when their base finds out Biden didn't win. Riots and destruction galore? If this is true, perhaps our Lord could send one of those fancy blizzards he also sends to the climate meetings, just to shut things down.
Maybe Biden Harris does not care, and they have more dystopian plans in place to establish themselves as a dictatorial leftish regime (it would explain some of their policy positions). Some HAVE been salivating over this, including trash HBO late night tv discussing using the military to harm Republicans who protest a Biden election, and AOC calling for Republicans to be outted (which, btw is the stupidest thing I've heard of-70 million Americans outted as Trump supporters, the economic ramifications..... whatever). However, right now, they are not in a good enough position to do these things. Sheriffs and Chief of Police around the nation are refusing to enforce state mask mandates, and have refused to enforce other national laws. Executive mandate on guns? Fracking? Prisons? It's going to be tough to enforce without cooperation of local REPUBLICAN officials. And there are still the states, which have significant authority over the areas that leftists are calling for radical change in.
And just maybe.....they haven't looked this far ahead because they can't see the forest for the trees.
Then again, here is to hoping Donald Trump's legal appeals work and he is named President.
Enter Harris.
Not sure what you mean by “I don’t think he’s as bad as some of the posters here believe” .... but I cannot recall any time that President Trump told someone they were full of shit or asked them to step outside or told them to shoot through the door with their shotgun.
But if you mean....he’s not as hard left as some one this site are thinking. You might be right. But at this stage in his life, Biden is a parrot. It doesn’t matter what he wants. It will all be Harris, Sanders, The Squad, Soros, Schumer and Pelosi if the Republican’s don’t hold the Senate. The previous occupant of the White House, even though the had everything the first two years, ran into some resistance from his own party during them. That is not going to be the case this time around.
They will run over him like a freight train for the short time that he will be in the Oval Office.
Here’s another conundrum... The 117th Congress will convene on January 3rd to count the electoral votes. Will there be a GA Senate representation? If neither VP candidate gets 270 EV, will Schumer attempt to hijack the Senate before the GA runoff on January 5th to seat Harris?
They will amnesty 30-40 million illegal aliens and invite in another 30-40 million more and legalize them.
Ithe country is founded is finished. Hey will destroy whatever remains. They will persecute whites and make Mao look like a piker.
YHERE WILL BE CHINESE MILITARY BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN THE CONTINENTAL U.S. WITHIN TWO YEARS. Invited in by the democRATS as peacekeepers to suppress the coming insurrection. Those Chinese boots will be the ones to go house to house searching for the declared illegal firearms
That was on traitor Paul Ryan and 40 GOP reps who decided to retire, pissed that Trump won.
Call me a Nazi for four years and now expect everything to be just hunky dory. You wish.
Harris/Biden presidency 2 chimps with strings the DNC pulls China sends cash power is the name of the game.
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With all due respect, I think that while you are fully able to write a good story, you are simultaneously a victim of normalcy bias. Less kindly, you are delusional if you think that we live in normal times and actually believe that the Dems will LET free and fair elections ever occur again.
Your first clue should have been the massive and blatant cheating that has been going on, and continues as we type/read/speak about the election. If you think that this is either a paranoid fantasy or a one-off phenomenon, then you might want to both remove your rose-colored sunglasses and stop smoking the crystal meth.
You had better start to get your Plan B put into place. Plan B is to get your affairs in order and get in shape. The Dems, if they get the Presidency, won’t ever let go. This fraud, perpetrated when they DIDN’T have that power, will be the model (refined to be more efficient and less detectable) used from here on out (for as long as they allow there to be show elections). Second, if they gain the Senate (and that means 50 seats plus Cameltoe) this year (and fraud in Georgia is MORE likely than the Sun rising in the East), this is what will happen:
1) Ending the filibuster;
2) With the filibuster gone, passing a massive court-packing bill (which will NOT be limited to the Supreme Court), that Biden will sign;
3) Adding DC and PR to the Union to get 4 more Dem Senators; 4) A massive amnesty of 20 million plus illegals with a provision for either immediate or incredibly accelerated citizenship for virtually all of them - certainly before the 2022 elections.
Naturally, guns will be banned out of existence a bit at a time (and once the first stage - registration of “assault weapons” and magazines, including a one-time amnesty period to show what “nice” guys they are) occurs, there will be some false flag massacre (maybe of softee Dem politicians who aren’t entirely on board with the far Left?), then the hammer will come down.
Note that one of the primary tools used by Hugo Chavez to consolidate his power in Venezuela was to expand their Supreme Court from 20 to 32 judges, precisely to cement his power by eliminating any Constitutional checks on his policies/actions. He was always careful to “legally” impose his stranglehold over his country.
End of country, period - you now have the entire country being ruled by one party, with exactly zero chance of ever turning that around. Oh, and if they don’t succeed with Georgia Senate races in January (and we have to resist that with EVERYTHING that we have), then they’ll do it in 2022. All that a Republican Senate this upcoming term means is a 2-year reprieve (and, BTW, that assumes that NONE of them officially turn Dem - remember Jumping Jim Jeffords? - I do) or do so unofficially by voting with them on key issues (either because of bribes or blackmail of one kind or another, or both) - can we REALLY count on Romney or ALL of the other RINO Senators to stand fast on the single most important issue in our history, when they regularly surrender on mundane issues faster than the French did to the Germans?
Nope, get your affairs in order. They’re coming after Trump supporters down to those who even contributed to his campaign (AOC’s Trump Accountability Project
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/left-post-trump-enemies-list-trump-accountability/
- with the efficiency of modern information processing and surveillance technologies, it’s going to make Stalin’s purges look positively primitive and incredibly inefficient). Get in shape, you’ll need it for the camps in Alaska and Death Valley. Yes, I believe that they want to do this - they thirst for unchallenged power over everyone else, and utterly resent that we stood in their way for 4 years by electing Trump. This happened in Germany, Russia, China, Cambodia, Cuba and a host of other nations, and our nation doesn’t sit on a pile of magic soil that immunizes us from the darkest aspects of human nature - what happened elsewhere can happen here, and listening to a lot of those on the Left (including many in positions of power), they are EAGER to do this. Please wake up from your fantasy world - it is leaving you utterly unprepared for what is coming.
Trust me, I know - I grew up listening to stories from my grandfather about what became of his nation at the hand of the Communists, and I have studied them (and other Collectivists, including the Nazis) for all of my adult life. As Sarah Connor said at the end of the first Terminator movie, “A storm is coming.”
“Great post!”
Exactly - we were stabbed in the back by those who were supposed to be on our side, resist the Dems and back the guy from OUR party whom WE elected to be POTUS.
But we were naive if we thought that the vast majority of these people represented anyone but themselves, especially those near the top of the power pyramid. I sincerely hope that Paul Ryan is judged on this Earth for what he did to this nation; but for his actions in destroying the Republican majority in the House, there would have been no impeachment sham AND Trump would have accomplished far more than he did (yeah, I know that’s hard to imagine, he’s done so much, but that’s his nature). I despise Paul Ryan with every fiber of my existence...because he traitorously and selfishly undercut the last person standing in the way of a Deep State takeover of this country.
“Not sure what you mean by “I don’t think he’s as bad as some of the posters here believe” ...”
I was referring to his dementia. I think he’s still in the early stages, while others think it’s advanced.
I agree - Biden either willingly resigns “for health reasons” within about 6 months, or there will be consequences. Either Hunter’s and his corruption come to light and destroy both his reputation and Presidency or (far more likely, IMHO) he is removed by either the action of the 25th Amendment or by the action of a slow and undetectable poison. Just think of Slo-Joe as Kerensky running Russia between the removal of the Czar and the Communist Revolution.
Harris is, essentially Lenin (but with far less brains and far less morals). She will nominally be in charge...but will also be removed before long. Note that Lenin had a stroke in 1922, and died 1 1/2 years later. Harris and her loyalists will play the role of the Mensheviks, who participated in the Revolution, only to be (violently) shoved out of the way by the Bolsheviks.
Then comes our Stalin (or Mao, or Chavez, or Kim, etc.). I don’t know who that is (but it isn’t Cameltoe’s husband, not a chance in the world), but he’s out there (and, no, it isn’t Hillary - she’ll be among the first of the American Mensheviks who is eliminated, along with Monica’s ex-boyfriend).
Such is, IMNO, the course of our Communist Revolution in the near future. It kills me to write these words (and may literally kill me later, based on my family history), but I cannot see any other future. Oh, of course, the details will be very different - I’m no prophet and I haven’t got a working crystal ball. But the essentials are already there if Trump loses - our country will be over.
Oh, and speaking of Trump, he and his family will, tragically, play the role of the Czar and his family. We know what happened to them; so does he, and this is part of the reason why he will literally fight this fraud until there are literally no other options...he is literally fighting for his life. Just my opinion, of course.
70 million voters will see the Biden presidency as illegitimate. Biden’s push to adopt leftist goals will only reinforce the animosity. Imagine how $4/ gallon gas, mass layoffs the oil industry, more lockdowns and senseless mask mandates will create more distrust. Biden’s increasing senility will in short order put Harris in the White House. Harris will quickly become despised even by the more moderate members of her party. The promise to literally confiscate assault weapons that Harris would promote will be a bridge too far and prompt open and armed rebellion with literal civil war. Tough times ahead.
“Who won out in the end? Ronald Reagan and the United States of America”
NOW is the time to fight for, protect and hand it on to our children - NOW, NOW NOW!!!! - or
**those of us who survive the coming purges***
“...will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
You assume that even IF conservatives are highly energized and do participate in 2022 that it will matter. I think that this election proves exactly the opposite - we WERE highly energized and we DID participate...and our nation is being stolen in front of our eyes. Do you really think that the Dems will ever ALLOW another free and fair election? Puhleeze!
“The previous occupant of the White House, even though the had everything the first two years, ran into some resistance from his own party during them. That is not going to be the case this time around.
They will run over him like a freight train for the short time that he will be in the Oval Office.”
Such are the lessons of history.
I just think technology has usurped the need for violence...they've simply found a way to put people to sleep(mentally only...for now)
In a normal world, you would be right - Harris would make Jimmy Carter look like a popular President.
But we no longer live in that world - shake off your normalcy bias. Obama set the table for a full-on dictatorship, and the Leftists were PISSED that we interrupted their timetable by electing Trump. They now have blood in their eye and will exact a terrible revenge against the American people...and allowing free and fair elections is simply not on the table. Welcome to Soviet-style elections where you know the result in advance, every single time.
My advice:
Declare victory and then withdraw!
Regards,
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