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‘People Are Going To Be Shocked’: Return of the ‘Shy’ Trump Voter?
Politico ^ | 10/29/2020 | Zack Stanton

Posted on 10/29/2020 7:21:14 PM PDT by simpson96

With Nov. 3 racing toward us, it can be tempting to see the 2020 election as a done deal. For months, Joe Biden has consistently and convincingly led Donald Trump in polls. Swing states in the industrial Midwest and Sun Belt appear to be heading Biden’s way, and if you trust the polls, it’s not a leap to imagine him winning 330+ electoral votes.

But what if you shouldn’t trust the polls?

In 2016, months of national polls confidently showed Hillary Clinton ahead, and set many Americans up for a shock on Election Night, when the Electoral College tilted decisively in Trump’s favor. Two pollsters who weren’t blindsided by this are Arie Kapteyn and Robert Cahaly.(snip)

This year, both men believe that polls could again be undercounting Trump’s support. The reason is “shy” Trump voters—people reluctant to share their opinions for fear of being judged.(snip)

“We live in a country where people will lie to their accountant, they’ll lie to their doctor, they’ll lie to their priest,” says Cahaly. “And we’re supposed to believe they shed all of that when they get on the telephone with a stranger?”

This year, conventional pollsters say they’ve learned their lessons, and are accounting for factors that skewed their results last year. Kapteyn and Cahaly aren’t so sure, as they explained to POLITICO this week via Zoom. A transcript of that conversation is below, condensed and edited for length and clarity.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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1 posted on 10/29/2020 7:21:14 PM PDT by simpson96
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Only Democrats will be shocked.


2 posted on 10/29/2020 7:24:19 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: simpson96
“Joe Biden has consistently and convincingly led Donald Trump in polls. Swing states in the industrial Midwest and Sun Belt appear to be heading Biden’s way, and if you trust the polls, it’s not a leap to imagine him winning 330+ electoral votes.“

Too stupid not to require silencing.

3 posted on 10/29/2020 7:24:48 PM PDT by coaster123 (Hate has a home here.)
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We aren’t shy, we are just busy earning a living!


4 posted on 10/29/2020 7:26:29 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clintons)
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To: simpson96

Trump voters are not shy. They realize that leftists are vindictive bastards who punish anyone who doesn’t sing the communist party line like a retarded parrot. I myself have recently registered as an independent because I do not want to lose business from my fortune 500 clients. Rest assured, I voted straight ticket Republican two days ago in Maricopa County (Phoenix), AZ.


5 posted on 10/29/2020 7:26:38 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (COVID lockdowns are the EstablishmentÂ’s attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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To: simpson96

A clear Trump victory should start a national conversation about retiring daily coverage of polls. Indeedy, polls aren’t “news” in any way.


6 posted on 10/29/2020 7:27:08 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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They will be surprised especially the games they are trying to play. It will enrage the shy voters and independents. MAGA2020


7 posted on 10/29/2020 7:27:09 PM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: wildcard_redneck

Trump voters are not angry.

They know most pollsters are the enemy who would not hesitate to doxx them at any time.

I would not talk to a pollster if they took me prisoner and tortured me.

That has nothing to do with being “shy”. :-)


8 posted on 10/29/2020 7:29:03 PM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman. Pronounced: Bye Done.)
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To: LoveMyFreedom

Politico is starting to back track ..


9 posted on 10/29/2020 7:29:51 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: cgbg

Correction—Trump voters are not “shy”.


10 posted on 10/29/2020 7:29:53 PM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman. Pronounced: Bye Done.)
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To: simpson96
It’s difficult for me to believe that people who are not shy about expressing their support for Trump in pretty much every other instance are shy when—

Clown. Try putting a Trump sign in my blue neighborhood and it means threat of violence or vandalism of my property.

11 posted on 10/29/2020 7:34:12 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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I don’t talk to pollsters either. I don’t know what they are missing but I think they are not capturing what is going on. We will see in a few days. Hillary knew she was in trouble in the early evening. I will look for the same signs. Trump has a tougher hill to climb.


12 posted on 10/29/2020 7:38:32 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Ted Grant

Take a look at the poor Drudge Report . . . .it’s gone stark raving mad with bad news as it relates to the conservatives.


13 posted on 10/29/2020 7:40:04 PM PDT by Maudeen (Wake up true believers in Christ and VOTE!)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Ditto here in North Carolina. I do projects for Big Banks. It doesn’t make sense for me to run the risk. So I’m registered Independent. No bumper stickers, flags, signs, and I never discuss politics at work.....and I vote straight ticket Republican.


14 posted on 10/29/2020 7:40:56 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: carcraft

Fake numbers are not a “tougher hill to climb”.

Check out this video—basic training on how early voting has already proven the polls wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf6yr_McIFs&feature=youtu.be

If someone tells you it is a hundred miles from the end of your driveway to your house is that a “tough hill to climb”?

Nope—cause they are _lying_!


15 posted on 10/29/2020 7:45:17 PM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman. Pronounced: Bye Done.)
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To: simpson96

I’m personally “shy”, nor afraid. I just despise the media so much that cooperating with them in any respect would sicken me.


16 posted on 10/29/2020 7:45:39 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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And don’t forget that Hillary is drinking so much Chardonnay is because she wants to do her part in Making American Grape Again.


17 posted on 10/29/2020 7:52:24 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Col Frank Slade
Politico is starting to back track ..

Rush said this would start happening about Thursday ... today !

18 posted on 10/29/2020 7:56:40 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Democracy dies in darkness)
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We are not shy
We really don’t want yet to make a choice of defending our home or going to prison.

The time may come...and I have already called “dibs” on the cell across the hall from Michelle Malkin


19 posted on 10/29/2020 8:01:07 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: carcraft
I don’t know what they are missing but I think they are not capturing what is going on.

Publicly, it doesn't matter what is going on. They are going to push numbers that may not even exist except in their own minds. I'm convinced they could take an honest polls and lie about what they captured.

20 posted on 10/29/2020 8:03:02 PM PDT by CatOwner
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