[Heartlander]

Abiogenesis? A reproducing cell is how evolution starts - did not think I would need to explain that to you. Again, even the first cell would need the ability to reproduce - and the many items necessary for this to occur would need to be already encoded in the DNA. This would require forethought from the very beginning.. Please explain how this logic is flawed.

“virtually all of science proceeds as if ID is true – it seeks elegant and efficient models; it reverse engineers biological systems; it describes evolution in teleological terms; it refers to natural forces and laws as if there is some kind of prescriptive agency guiding matter and energy; it assumes that the nature of the universe and human comprehensive capacity have some sort of truthful, factual correspondence.”
– William J Murray

[freedumb2003]

Please demonstrate how you put that philosophy into an experiment that can be repeated under controlled circumstances.

And I suggest you understand words before reacting. You are indeed speaking of abiogenesis.

And you realize NONE of this has anything to do with the OP, which does not speak of ID in the way creationists do.