I read it.
It does not say what creationists hope it says.
It does NOT posit an intelligent designer (much less ZAP!). It is some word games but NOT an acknowledgement that ID as used by creationists is even slightly valid.
It says MAYBE someday there can be a testable theory:
>> to work towards “establish[ing] fine-tuning as a sustainable and fully testable scientific hypothesis, and ultimately a Design Science.” <<
Fine. If such is the case and we can discover the design steps then, guess what? It becomes a refinement to TToE. Perhaps a needed one.
But the only way classic ID can be “tested” is to meet and interview the designer.
A group of scientists tell God they can make a better man than He did.
God says, “You’re on”.
One of the scientists tells another, “Go get a bucket of dirt.”
God says, “No, no ... Make your own dirt.”
“”.. and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life or of species are not science because they are not testable by the methods of science.””
why would one call creation “supernatural”?
not testable = not science?
ok.
but not testable can still = true.
If you are a knowledgeable biologist, but do not have the super-advanced math skills, you can come to the following conclusions:
1. Evolution is true...
2. But we do not understand how it works!!!!
There are a growing number of evolutionary transitions that do NOT fit the Darwinian model. They have only come to light in the last 30-40 years or so, based on advanced genomics and molecular biology. Of course, researchers are working on trying to understand how these things work, including trying to save strict Darwinism. But that’s how science works!!!!
Before 1980, one could be a strict Darwinist. Since then you cannot be, with any scientific integrity! I don’t know how these new mathematical models affect things, since I do not understand the math. But I do understand the biology!!!!
My best guess is something beyond our mental capabilities threw out the dice to see what would happen. He/She/It may have instilled certain laws of physics in the original super condensed/heated basketball that physicists claim.
My bigger question is why he chose this rock to develop sentient beings. Or did he just let it happen as may be the case all over the universe.
That said, I have always subscribed to Judea/Christian ethics. Why? "Do unto others as you will have them do unto you". That makes a lot of sense when you consider the better traits of humans, like compassion, sympathy, empathy, and even the indescribable trait of love.
I don't believe in a conscience after life. I think a person just blanks out, as they were before they have a heart beat and central nervous system. Still, I hope so and it would be cool.
Also, sorry I don't believe much of the Bible. Much was written when mankind believed the world was flat and lighting was an angry action from god[s].
As for Jesus Christ, he was a most amazing man, but don't believe he is the son of any god.
Faith? I believe that is human construct to keep us from wallowing in our ultimate fate of death. I don't fear non-existence as I didn't know I would exist.
All that said, what a fun ride it's been. If there is a over-looking forgiving god, I thank you. If not, still a long strange trip it's been...ha.
So here we are on the brink of an election between the godless and lawless, evolutionist mobs, and Christians who believe God created the heavens and earth, and, lo, we have a thread with the same godless evolutionists bashing Christians for their creationist belief.
What are they doing here on FR? The owner of this site is Christian, this site is a conservative Christian site. Why, I wonder, are they here and not out rioting with their godless evolutionist buddies?