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Maritime Law: The One Change That Could Save The Cruise Industry
Cruise Radio ^ | October 26, 2020 | Bruce Parkinson

Posted on 10/26/2020 10:54:35 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 10/26/2020 10:54:35 AM PDT by SJackson
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Operating costs such as US crews are a problem but the fact that a US flagged ship must be American made is a killer. Many shipyards, but 5 dominate the manufacturing side of the industry. A chicken or egg situation, given the dominant shipyards are outside the US. Germany, Finland, Japan, France, no reason we can’t compete.


2 posted on 10/26/2020 10:57:27 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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Forgot, "This is About Survival:" Alaska Ports Issue Plea For 2021 Cruise Season. If Canada doesn't reopen their waters, tough times for lower Alaska.
3 posted on 10/26/2020 10:59:07 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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To: Capt. Tom

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4 posted on 10/26/2020 10:59:43 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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Getting rid of the Jones Act has been a push since it was passed. It’s almost like the getting rid of the 2nd amendment.

Chinese and Mexican ships taking over our domestic trade? No Thanks


5 posted on 10/26/2020 11:03:05 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Portland Voted for IT)
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To: SJackson

The Jones Act kept me from doing B2B Alaska and then Hawaii for years...

We couldnt leave Seattle and go to Vancouver and then leave Vancouver and go to Hawaii ..

I wanted to fly out once and do both...

Finally last year I was able to do Vancouver to Vancouver and then to LA through Hawaii...


6 posted on 10/26/2020 11:06:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cold Heart

“Chinese and Mexican ships taking over our domestic trade? No Thanks”

They already have. We don’t build merchant ships any more and they are not registered here.

The act actually killed the US non-military ship building industry


7 posted on 10/26/2020 11:08:05 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

With Guam. Asian airliners have to return rather than fly on to Hawaii/West coast. Lost tourism. Worried the island will fall over.


8 posted on 10/26/2020 11:09:22 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Cold Heart

The rationale even at the time was the importance of a private shipbuilding capability in the US. Over the last 25 years (and longer) US private shipbuilding has collapsed. I’d note, for US flagging construction can be separated from crew nationality requirements.


9 posted on 10/26/2020 11:13:33 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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To: Fai Mao

“The act actually killed the non-military ship building industry”

No. If not for the Act, almost all of the coastal tankers, freighters, tugs and barges, oil rigs and other craft now made in the US’s 83 shipyards would be built elsewhere.


10 posted on 10/26/2020 11:21:20 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Portland Voted for IT)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

When Will I Be Cruising

I’ve been cancelled, been mistreated
When will I be cruising
I’ve been masked up, I’ve been pushed ‘round
When will I be cruising
When I find a new cruise that I want for mine
Its cancelled in a month or two, it happens every time
I’ve been made blue, I’ve been lied to
When will I be cruising
When I find a new cruise that I want for mine
Its cancelled in a month or two, it happens every time
I’ve been cancelled, been mistreated
When will I be cruising
When will I be cruising
Tell me when will I be cruising

From When Will I be loved Linda Ronstadt


11 posted on 10/26/2020 11:21:22 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cold Heart

I am unfamiliar with the history of the Jones Act and its possible consequences, so this is just a personal comment. The US is a two ocean country, and so needs a two ocean navy. However, the Navy alone cannot adequately defend our shores, or project power overseas, without the support of the Merchant Marine, who in the past have behaved with the same exemplary patriotism and bravery as those in uniform. I believe the overriding consideration is to support them and keep them strong.

Read Alfred Thayer Mahan, “The Influence of Sea Power upon History”.


12 posted on 10/26/2020 11:30:01 AM PDT by Samuel Smiles
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REPEAL the part of the JONES ACT so we can have AMERIcan cruises!!!!


13 posted on 10/26/2020 11:37:55 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cold Heart

DO YOU KNOW OF ANY MEXICAN SHIPS??? One of the Chinese ships are CRYSTAL CRUISES!! I’ll take it!!


14 posted on 10/26/2020 11:40:01 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SJackson

Screw ‘em

American flagged, American Crew or they can suck water all the way to the bottom.


15 posted on 10/26/2020 11:47:08 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: Ann Archy

That would make sense. There’s no reason we can’t establish a private shipbuilding industry in the US. There’s no reason a ship should have to stop in Canada to travel to Alaska. Ships stopping in the US are subject to Coast Guard inspections/standards which should eliminate the concern about “third world ships”.


16 posted on 10/26/2020 11:55:25 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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To: RedStateRocker

Screw those 175,000 to 250,000 Americans employed in the industry too. Won’t worry about the Americans working at American shipyards, those jobs are long gone. Would you advocate the same change for airlines?


17 posted on 10/26/2020 11:57:28 AM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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To: Samuel Smiles
It failed, the worldwide share of ship construction is under 10%. At the time of the Jones act we were second in the world. Not a US shipyard in the top 17. The article address' cruise ships, not a single shipyard in the US, but I think the benefits of competition would have an impact on both. Note the countries in the link of 17, not third world. We can compete with the UK, Germany, Japan, South Korea and the like.
18 posted on 10/26/2020 12:05:11 PM PDT by SJackson (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself, M Twaini)
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Why should Americans care if foreign-owned cruise lines go bankrupt? It’s not an essential transportation service like airlines. I like to take cruises, but if I can’t any more that’s life.


19 posted on 10/26/2020 12:37:34 PM PDT by devere
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To: devere

Bingo. Foreign owned cruise lines, foreign made ships and almost completely foreign crewed. Where’s the problem?


20 posted on 10/26/2020 1:56:44 PM PDT by Grey182 (Benedict XVI is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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