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Florida Judge Could Hold Up Carnival’s Restart of Operations
Cruise Hive ^ | Oct. 18, 2020 | Robert McGillivray

Posted on 10/18/2020 1:25:35 PM PDT by Capt. Tom

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To: Ann Archy

Yup! They (bureaucrats worldwide) should forfeit their paychecks until they open industries.


21 posted on 10/19/2020 2:24:45 PM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: Capt. Tom
The airlines have hepa filters that eliminate 99% of bacteria and viruses. Hand sanitizers at every cabin door, elevators, etc., rapid testing for all customers, passengers, tour operators,.....what the heck is wrong with the CEOs? I guess there is an issue with liability insurance, but people may be willfully to sign waivers.
22 posted on 10/19/2020 2:31:41 PM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: Chgogal
What is the science behind this?

Where the Cruise Lines are concerned I believe the aspect of forcing some of Cruise Lines into bankruptcy is the objective by using so-called science by our CDC and liberal courts.

Below is an excerpt from an article that touches on the problem. ................................................ "Cruise lines have been thoroughly prepared and successful in showing that cruising is possible in a safe manner; the procedures that have been put in place go further than any other industry in the world.

Will the cruise lines be at the behest of the a health official deciding the fate of a billion-dollar industry? If so, then will the cruise industry be able to recover? Not only that, will cruise lines cancel voyages each time there is an infection on board?

23 posted on 10/19/2020 3:41:34 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2020 - The Events, not us, are in charge now. -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

Here is some science for the CDC to consider.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3895612/posts


24 posted on 10/19/2020 3:52:39 PM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: Chgogal
Here is some science for the CDC to consider.

Below is what the Cruise lines will have to face fighting this virus.

If one of the best hospitals in the world is having difficulty in handling the virus, what chance does a cruise ship have?

Excerpt from a recent Boston Globe article
The COVID-19 outbreak among dozens of employees and patients at Brigham and Women’s Hospital last month probably started with a highly infectious patient who tested negative twice before spreading the virus across three units.

That’s the conclusion of the Brigham doctors who worked to understand how such an event could occur despite infection control protocols that seemed to have prevented in-hospital transmission for months.

25 posted on 10/20/2020 11:04:24 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2020 - The Events, not us, are in charge now. -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom

How did it spread?


26 posted on 10/20/2020 12:37:32 PM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: Chgogal
How did it spread?

You can get that from the article below: - Tom

click here for article

27 posted on 10/20/2020 12:58:16 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2020 - The Events, not us, are in charge now. -Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom; gibsonguy; NormsRevenge; Chgogal; Ann Archy; dennisw; entropy12; Captain Walker; ...
Today, October 22, the Judge has cut CARNIVAL some slack in the 60 day delay before cruising. -Tom

According to The Miami Herald, U.S. District Judge for the Southern District of Florida, Patricia Seitz, ruled that Carnival would need to validate the environmental protection status for each ship in the company’s fleet 30 days before they reenter American waters.

28 posted on 10/22/2020 11:53:11 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2020 - The Events, not us, are in charge now. -Tom)
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To: decal

“And guess who appointed Judge Seitz? You get two guesses...”

Why guess? I looked it up.

President Horndog.


29 posted on 10/22/2020 11:56:38 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Capt. Tom

This judge is really bad. All of her punitive requirements for the 12 hrs they spend in a US port? Or make all Carnival ships comply due to violations of a few cruise ships which cruised Alaskan waters?

Does she know what foreign ports are like? Or the cost imparted to American ports, companies and workers? This is the type of heavy-handed environmental dicta that led to the destruction of STS-107.


30 posted on 10/22/2020 2:19:59 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

My wife noticed on a Holland part of a farcebook site the following ...

Next years Holland sailing scheduled to transit the Panama Canal, will not be stopping in Half Moon Cay. This modification of the itinerary is being posted.

Why ?

My bet is that the Bahama’s extreme restrictions be the reason. All private islands the cruises have are all ‘doomed’ by being the Bahama chain. Probably all sorts of requirement as far as using Bahama citizens to staff. They have to transit from Bahama mainland to these private islands and could be covid carriers.

Also I’ve read on Tom threads somewhere that a Bahama issued Visa is now required to make any travel involving a Bahama spot.

Also something about covid test within 7 days prior to Bahama travel. Well a ship coming from San Diego, through the canal, leaves more than 7 days before encountering Bahamas waters. So everyone is SOL.

Comments welcome ?


31 posted on 10/23/2020 7:04:15 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

Don’t know about Bahamas other than the rampant corruption and crime. Been to the Atlantis on Nassau but no interest in taking a chance anywhere else in that nation right now. Don’t see how Carnival’s private island Half Moon cay would be impacted but it seems the notorious Bahamian greed and intemperance is doing just that. Let them be that way. They’re already gouging and driving out international businesses. It’ll just get worse until a change in leadership (read: brutal dictatorship) takes over.

My thoughts are when in doubt ...Mexico. Always had great experiences at Cozumel and Costa Maya.


32 posted on 10/23/2020 11:52:06 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: George from New England; Justa; All
Comments welcome ?

I believe I have found a vacation spot for Cruising Freepers who need a cahnge of pace .

If you go, would you find out for me, what happened to the investigations about a year ago into the deaths of about 20 different tourists, over a long period of time (possible poisonings?)

It was big news and several investigations lunched.
Then it dropped out of all news sources, and not a word about it since. -Tom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Excerpt from Casa de Campo Real Estate News--
The government of Dominican Republic, in a historic move, is providing complimentary travel and health insurance to all tourists staying in the country from the end of September to December 31st, 2020.

The travel and health insurance will cover all emergency hospitalization, medical, lodging costs, as well as airline ticket change fees if one becomes ill with COVID-19 while visiting. The insurance will be provided at no cost to the visitor and will be fully paid for by the Dominican government. Additionally, beginning at the end of September, guests will no longer be required to provide a certificate of testing negative for COVID-19 before traveling to the Dominican Republic

33 posted on 10/23/2020 12:52:55 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (It's COVID 2020 - The Events, not us, are in charge now. -Tom)
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