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To: DoodleBob
But I also don't believe this was just a simple flu-like bug

In some ways it's been worse than the usual flu (higher mortality rate, but not that much higher, and much less than originally predicted) and in some ways it's not as bad as usual flu (extremely low infection/death rate for younger people and children, and low for most other healthy people). And all viruses result in some long-term effects in some people - posting that now is just fear-porn in my opinion.

Bottom line, it's hard to believe any medical expert now, which is sad. And quarantining healthy people and shutting down the economy over this has definitely been a big mistake, and reasonable and intelligent people knew that months ago and yet it still continues.

13 posted on 10/17/2020 10:27:40 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: norcal joe

“In some ways it’s been worse than the usual flu (higher mortality rate, but not that much higher, and much less than originally predicted) and in some ways it’s not as bad as usual flu (extremely low infection/death rate for younger people and children, and low for most other healthy people).”

Wrong on both counts. 28 times as likely to kill you as the common flu if you get it, and it has a distribution that is very similar to the common flu, just with a higher amplitude. If it were not for the significant mitigation efforts that were implemented, a lot more people would be dead from this.

It is astonishing that some people with access to actual data on the results of this virus are still in denial about its dangers.

The measures that were taken were necessary to save the HCS. We can sustain a low boil, now, and have developed treatments that keep things stable, if not ideal. We would actually have pretty good numbers, comparatively, if it were not for the fact that people like Cuomo are willing to kill the vulnerable just to deny President Trump a win.


18 posted on 10/17/2020 11:37:07 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: norcal joe
The only long-run effects of viruses (especially common ones like influenza) of which I've read are fatigue. What these stories relate about the long-run effect (well, a few months after "recovery") of COVID19 are much more serious. These lingering effects seems fairly wide spread, and is further supported by FReepers who've reported their saga with this bug.

I totally agree that a risk-based approach to this virus - keep schools and jobs open, shield the elderly and infirm, exile Connie Corleone and Michigan Medusa - would have saved lives, lowered unemployment, been less disruptive, and so on. Indeed, as I posted recently, on the new "hot spot" Idaho, the under 30 crowd accounts for 40% of cases and 0.2% of fatalities while those 70+ yrs old account for 8% of cases and 80% of fatalities. All young people I know who've had this thing felt tired and coughed a lot - after a few days of quarantine they were ready to get back to life.

So yes, a lot of damage was inflicted unnecessarily, but I hardly consider the truth to be fear porn.

24 posted on 10/18/2020 8:02:46 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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