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Women in Italy shocked to find their names on grave markers for aborted fetuses
CBC News ^ | Oct. 8, 2020 | Megan Williams

Posted on 10/08/2020 4:54:49 AM PDT by rickmichaels

When Francesca joined a group of friends on a fact-finding visit to a cemetery in Rome last week, she was not prepared to find a small, white cross with her name on it.

The friends had learned through Facebook that a woman from Rome who had an abortion had later discovered her name on a similar cross in the sprawling Flaminio Cemetery on the northern outskirts of the capital city.

Francesca, a 36-year-old body movement instructor who asked that her last name not be published, had an abortion in September 2019 after learning her fetus had a fatal heart malformation and would not survive. But she never expected that someone would bury her fetus and mark the site with a cross bearing her name.

"Nobody told me the fetus would be buried, nobody asked me if I wanted a burial and nobody got my permission to put my name on a cross," she said. "I can't tell you what a horrendous feeling it is to find a cross with your name on it."

This week, Italian feminist organization Differenza Donna filed a formal complaint with the public prosecutor of Rome on behalf of dozens of women who were named on small crosses in an area of the graveyard referred to as the Garden of Angels.

The public prosecutor has opened a file against "unknown persons," according to Italian media reports.

In a Facebook post last month, a woman named Marta Loi wrote about her surprise at learning her name was posted on a cross in the cemetery.

Loi wrote on Facebook that when she had her abortion, she was told by hospital staff that if she wanted a funeral and burial for her fetus, she would have to fill out a form. She didn't.

About seven months later, she wrote, she began wondering what happened to the remains of her fetus and called the hospital, which told her the hospital had kept the aborted fetus in case she changed her mind and still had it.

She posted a photo of her cross, which is among 200 or so, some dating as far back as 2004. Many are made of wood, have rotted and fallen over.

"I get chills every time I talk about it," said Elisa Ercoli, head of Differenza Donna, which filed the complaint and is calling for an investigation into the matter.

"We have fought for years in Italy for women to have the right to give their own children their last name [without the father's permission], a right they are still largely denied," she said.

"Now this – the public shaming of women who have gone through a legal, therapeutic abortion, an intimate and private choice of self-determination that no one has the right to comment on. This is a very serious act of institutional violence."

Italian law stipulates the burial of fetuses from therapeutic abortions from 20 to 28 weeks can take place upon written request from the mother or parents within 24 hours. Yet, the women on whose behalf Differenza Donna is advocating say they did not receive clear information about the consent process or give written consent.

As a result of the discovery in Rome, authorities are now looking into "babies never born" sections of public cemeteries in other parts of the country. Graves of fetuses buried without women's permission were discovered in Turin in 2013 and removed.

Cathy La Torre, a lawyer representing some of the women, said if women don't request a burial, often what happens is that hospitals or local health authorities strike agreements with ultra-conservative Catholic associations to bury the remains as a way to save on costs.

"Volunteers from these groups show up with a bag and cover the costs to have the abortion material buried. Then women find their names on a little cross," said La Torre.

One such group is Difendere la Vita con Maria, or Protect Life with Mary, which describes its mission on its website as "to bury fetuses regardless of a woman's will" and to place crosses on them.

Maurizio Gagliardini, a parish priest who runs the association, says the group is not responsible for putting the names of the women on the crosses, which he agrees is a violation of privacy. His group, he said, only puts the date of the abortion and a number code on the cross.

"I think the pro-life movement should be allowed to express itself in a democracy," said Gagliardini. "We are Catholics, but we don't go to the hospital to preach. Crosses on buried fetuses, yes, but names of women, no."

He said his association has no formal agreement with Rome hospitals but is a group of volunteers that provides a service that some women formally request, namely, burying fetuses.

He admits the group puts crosses atop buried fetal material without women's written permission but said he believes the Italian law permits it if a woman does not claim the material within 24 hours.

But Francesca said finding her full name on a small cross in the Rome cemetery is merely the last straw in what she calls a "system of physical and psychological torture" of women who seek abortions in Italy.

"Everyone is now up in arms about the privacy issue," she said, "but the real issue is that Italy does not permit women to have abortions in a dignified way."

While women in Italy won the right to abortion in 1978, the law gives doctors and nurses the right to conscientiously object to performing them. Because so many hospitals in Italy are Catholic, the vast majority of health care workers choose to object, not necessarily for religious reasons, but because some fear not doing so will negatively impact them at work.

Francesca said in Italy, there is no readily available information for women seeking abortions. It took her weeks to locate a doctor – and a nurse who worked the same shift – willing to perform the procedure. She said she was forced to have multiple ultrasounds where technicians urged her to look at her daughter's "beautiful face" and was insulted by health care workers at the public hospital.

She calls the abortion itself was like "a horror film" and says she was denied an epidural and anesthesia.

"Putting our names on crosses is merely the final step in a system that is set on punishing women who have abortions."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminazism; gardenofangels
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To: rickmichaels

This is nothing compares to what their conscious will do to them...assuming they have one


21 posted on 10/08/2020 5:45:32 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: rickmichaels

This is nothing compares to what their conscience will do to them...assuming they have one


22 posted on 10/08/2020 5:47:03 AM PDT by panzerkamphwageneinz
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To: a fool in paradise

I can hardly believe they use the word “therapeutic “ in that sentence. Disgusting.


23 posted on 10/08/2020 5:57:51 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: rickmichaels

I don’t really care if they make them take the names off the crosses. As to the tissue, the mothers treated it as mere skin cells, which they wash off every day, so they should have no conceivable complaint of those cells get buried under ground, or a cross put on them.


24 posted on 10/08/2020 10:56:57 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rickmichaels
"but the real issue is that Italy does not permit women to have abortions in a dignified way."

An abortion is not dignified for the baby or, if you prefer, fetus.

25 posted on 10/08/2020 11:10:46 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: cdcdawg

Teachez ambulance and hearse drivers.


26 posted on 10/08/2020 2:01:04 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: Tax-chick

If your name is john doe or jane doe you get admitted to hundreds of hospitals daily.


27 posted on 10/08/2020 2:02:54 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: rickmichaels

They threw them away like they were trash. What did they want the name to be “It”


28 posted on 10/08/2020 2:05:52 PM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: rickmichaels
"Nobody told me the fetus would be buried, nobody asked me if I wanted a burial and nobody got my permission to put my name on a cross," she said. "I can't tell you what a horrendous feeling it is to find a cross with your name on it."

Imagine how the aborted baby felt.

Geez....these selfish women are always thinking of only themselves.

29 posted on 10/08/2020 2:09:20 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: rickmichaels

She had her baby murdered and then didn’t even bury it. She’s mad that someone else did. That is absolutely heartless.


30 posted on 10/08/2020 6:05:50 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Tax-chick

My daughter has had three corrective surgeries in her life. The last two were two months ago and she is doing a lot better now. Reading what the woman said in the article said horrified me.


31 posted on 10/08/2020 6:09:24 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Trillian

I’m glad your daughter is improving!


32 posted on 10/08/2020 7:05:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: cdcdawg

“Francesca, a 36-year-old body movement instructor ...”

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I thought it said bowel movement instructor.


33 posted on 10/12/2020 9:03:16 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Born after V.E. day but before V.J. day but I did co pilot the Enola Gay.)
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