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Women in Italy shocked to find their names on grave markers for aborted fetuses
CBC News ^ | Oct. 8, 2020 | Megan Williams

Posted on 10/08/2020 4:54:49 AM PDT by rickmichaels

When Francesca joined a group of friends on a fact-finding visit to a cemetery in Rome last week, she was not prepared to find a small, white cross with her name on it.

The friends had learned through Facebook that a woman from Rome who had an abortion had later discovered her name on a similar cross in the sprawling Flaminio Cemetery on the northern outskirts of the capital city.

Francesca, a 36-year-old body movement instructor who asked that her last name not be published, had an abortion in September 2019 after learning her fetus had a fatal heart malformation and would not survive. But she never expected that someone would bury her fetus and mark the site with a cross bearing her name.

"Nobody told me the fetus would be buried, nobody asked me if I wanted a burial and nobody got my permission to put my name on a cross," she said. "I can't tell you what a horrendous feeling it is to find a cross with your name on it."

This week, Italian feminist organization Differenza Donna filed a formal complaint with the public prosecutor of Rome on behalf of dozens of women who were named on small crosses in an area of the graveyard referred to as the Garden of Angels.

The public prosecutor has opened a file against "unknown persons," according to Italian media reports.

In a Facebook post last month, a woman named Marta Loi wrote about her surprise at learning her name was posted on a cross in the cemetery.

Loi wrote on Facebook that when she had her abortion, she was told by hospital staff that if she wanted a funeral and burial for her fetus, she would have to fill out a form. She didn't.

About seven months later, she wrote, she began wondering what happened to the remains of her fetus and called the hospital, which told her the hospital had kept the aborted fetus in case she changed her mind and still had it.

She posted a photo of her cross, which is among 200 or so, some dating as far back as 2004. Many are made of wood, have rotted and fallen over.

"I get chills every time I talk about it," said Elisa Ercoli, head of Differenza Donna, which filed the complaint and is calling for an investigation into the matter.

"We have fought for years in Italy for women to have the right to give their own children their last name [without the father's permission], a right they are still largely denied," she said.

"Now this – the public shaming of women who have gone through a legal, therapeutic abortion, an intimate and private choice of self-determination that no one has the right to comment on. This is a very serious act of institutional violence."

Italian law stipulates the burial of fetuses from therapeutic abortions from 20 to 28 weeks can take place upon written request from the mother or parents within 24 hours. Yet, the women on whose behalf Differenza Donna is advocating say they did not receive clear information about the consent process or give written consent.

As a result of the discovery in Rome, authorities are now looking into "babies never born" sections of public cemeteries in other parts of the country. Graves of fetuses buried without women's permission were discovered in Turin in 2013 and removed.

Cathy La Torre, a lawyer representing some of the women, said if women don't request a burial, often what happens is that hospitals or local health authorities strike agreements with ultra-conservative Catholic associations to bury the remains as a way to save on costs.

"Volunteers from these groups show up with a bag and cover the costs to have the abortion material buried. Then women find their names on a little cross," said La Torre.

One such group is Difendere la Vita con Maria, or Protect Life with Mary, which describes its mission on its website as "to bury fetuses regardless of a woman's will" and to place crosses on them.

Maurizio Gagliardini, a parish priest who runs the association, says the group is not responsible for putting the names of the women on the crosses, which he agrees is a violation of privacy. His group, he said, only puts the date of the abortion and a number code on the cross.

"I think the pro-life movement should be allowed to express itself in a democracy," said Gagliardini. "We are Catholics, but we don't go to the hospital to preach. Crosses on buried fetuses, yes, but names of women, no."

He said his association has no formal agreement with Rome hospitals but is a group of volunteers that provides a service that some women formally request, namely, burying fetuses.

He admits the group puts crosses atop buried fetal material without women's written permission but said he believes the Italian law permits it if a woman does not claim the material within 24 hours.

But Francesca said finding her full name on a small cross in the Rome cemetery is merely the last straw in what she calls a "system of physical and psychological torture" of women who seek abortions in Italy.

"Everyone is now up in arms about the privacy issue," she said, "but the real issue is that Italy does not permit women to have abortions in a dignified way."

While women in Italy won the right to abortion in 1978, the law gives doctors and nurses the right to conscientiously object to performing them. Because so many hospitals in Italy are Catholic, the vast majority of health care workers choose to object, not necessarily for religious reasons, but because some fear not doing so will negatively impact them at work.

Francesca said in Italy, there is no readily available information for women seeking abortions. It took her weeks to locate a doctor – and a nurse who worked the same shift – willing to perform the procedure. She said she was forced to have multiple ultrasounds where technicians urged her to look at her daughter's "beautiful face" and was insulted by health care workers at the public hospital.

She calls the abortion itself was like "a horror film" and says she was denied an epidural and anesthesia.

"Putting our names on crosses is merely the final step in a system that is set on punishing women who have abortions."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminazism; gardenofangels
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1 posted on 10/08/2020 4:54:49 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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When Francesca joined a group of friends on a fact-finding visit to a cemetery in Rome last week ...

Sure, that's what I do to pass the time with my friends, too. "Fact-finding" in cemeteries.

2 posted on 10/08/2020 4:56:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: rickmichaels

Public shaming.

I’m in favor of it. Defend Life!

‘Pod


3 posted on 10/08/2020 4:57:15 AM PDT by sauropod (Let them eat kale. I will not comply.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yep, every other Tuesday for me.


4 posted on 10/08/2020 4:58:27 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: rickmichaels

There aren’t more than one person with the same name in Italy?


5 posted on 10/08/2020 4:58:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: rickmichaels

Why is she hiding her face? Ashamed of something?


6 posted on 10/08/2020 5:01:21 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: rickmichaels

“Francesca, a 36-year-old body movement instructor ...”

A what?


7 posted on 10/08/2020 5:04:06 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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To: lodi90

“I should be allowed to kill my baby in private!”


8 posted on 10/08/2020 5:04:29 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: rickmichaels

When confronted with the horror of her abortion, the woman is horrified ... but not at the abortion.


9 posted on 10/08/2020 5:05:31 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: cdcdawg

Whore?
Fitness trainer?
Stripper?


10 posted on 10/08/2020 5:09:00 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: rickmichaels

“Nobody told me the fetus would be buried, nobody asked me if I wanted a burial and nobody got my permission to put my name on a cross,” she said. “I can’t tell you what a horrendous feeling it is to find a cross with your name on it.”

You did not want it — who’s to say that the baby would not have lived - been just fine — healed by God ??? You threw the child away and therefore, lost any say in the matter...


11 posted on 10/08/2020 5:10:24 AM PDT by Patriot_MP (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: rickmichaels

Kinda weird, but I’m OK with it.

Truthfully, I did not read the entire article, but I can see these “moms” committing two unholy atrocities. Ripping their unborn children from their wombs...and then ripping their child’s remains from the grave to be destroyed via cremation or just disposal at the local landfill.

If these women are shocked and disturbed by this backdoor process of interring their child’s remains...good.


12 posted on 10/08/2020 5:14:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: EEGator

I think you probably had it right on the first one. She’s too old to be credible as an actress/model/singer/dancer. I’d like to think that webcam “girl” is unlikely at 36, but there are minions of thirsty men out there. “Social media influencer” is another possibility.


13 posted on 10/08/2020 5:15:05 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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>>”Nobody told me the fetus would be buried, nobody asked me if I wanted a burial and nobody got my permission to put my name on a cross,” she said. “I can’t tell you what a horrendous feeling it is to find a cross with your name on it.”

What a drama queen. Ok to throw the fetus in the garbage but bury it? Clutch the pearls! And horrendous to see your name on a cross but the dead baby memorialized there? Meh.


14 posted on 10/08/2020 5:15:59 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: rickmichaels

>>the public shaming of women who have gone through a legal, therapeutic abortion,

I thought there was no shame in having an abortion. Especially one that is medically necessary.

Even miscarried babies get buried.


15 posted on 10/08/2020 5:18:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: cdcdawg

That’s how she got pregnant in the first place


16 posted on 10/08/2020 5:18:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: rickmichaels

” had an abortion in September 2019 after learning her fetus had a fatal heart malformation and would not survive”

She’s lying.


17 posted on 10/08/2020 5:29:44 AM PDT by tuffydoodle (God's character and moral nature are absolute, eternal, and unchanging.)
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To: Patriot_MP

One of my friends had a baby with a heart defect. It was corrected by surgery, and her daughter is just fine now. My friend said her cardiologist was appalled by the number of babies with correctable heart defects who were aborted, especially in Europe.

“We can fix this! We can completely fix this, damnit!”


18 posted on 10/08/2020 5:32:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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To: sauropod

Its highly effective


19 posted on 10/08/2020 5:38:50 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: nickcarraway

I’ve seen my name on gravestones. Both my first and last names are in common use.


20 posted on 10/08/2020 5:42:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("What we can see of God's canvas is laughably small." ~Bp. Barron)
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