[Swordmaker]

My lady and I had some kind of mild-illness in early to mid January that mirrored Covid19 in its symptoms. Since then we’ve had continuing tiredness and aches. I have discovered that since that date I am suffering from hypoxia, especially at night with a blood oxygen level that can reach as low as 81%. Prior to this, my blood O2 level has been consistently at 97% to 98%. Now I seldom reach that with a normal resting O2 level of 93% to 94% but often dropping to 89% and below. An overnight O2 test found I spent 176 minutes with my O2 level below 86% and drops to 81%, but did not suffer from sleep apnea. I do not feel I have to gasp for breath nor do I feel short of breath when my blood O2 level gets so low. In other words, I am paralleling the symptoms being described in the article.

Our doctor reported numerous people in South West Utah were hit by a similar generalized mild illness in January and Utah, but no explanation. Most have tested negative for Covid, but the test is 60% unreliable. So he and they don’t rely on it for any diagnoses.

My lady and I think we had mild cases of Covid back in January and are still suffering from the aftermath. Is anyone else in Freepdom experiencing anything similar?

[Swordmaker]

My lady’s Blood Oxygen is normal. . . But she does get exhausted very easily. That is not normal for her.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Interesting, and thanks for the warning.

I’m old enough to be concerned, but don’t have an oximeter. On occasion I use the sensor in my phone, which lays some claim to O2 measurement, but which no one believes is precise.

[Zhang Fei]

Did you get the virus specific (PCR) test?

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https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/expert-answers/covid-antibody-tests/faq-20484429
[What tests are used to diagnose COVID-19?

The FDA approved these types of tests for diagnosing a COVID-19 infection:

PCR test. This COVID-19 test detects genetic material of the virus using a lab technique called polymerase chain reaction (PCR). Also called a molecular test, a health care worker collects fluid from a nasal or throat swab or from saliva. Results may be available in minutes if analyzed onsite or a few days — or longer in locations with test processing delays — if sent to an outside lab. PCR tests are very accurate when properly performed by a health care professional, but the rapid test can miss some cases.

Antigen test. This COVID-19 test detects certain proteins in the virus. Using a nasal or throat swab to get a fluid sample, antigen tests can produce results in minutes. Because these tests are faster and less expensive than PCR tests, antigen tests may be more practical to use for large numbers of people. A positive antigen test result is considered very accurate, but there’s an increased chance of false-negative results — meaning it’s possible to be infected with the virus but have a negative result. Depending on the situation, the doctor may recommend a PCR test to confirm a negative antigen test result.]

[devane617]

My lovely wife is an RN and if I feel bad out comes the Pulse/Ox meter as a routine...

[dfwgator]

Monkeys may be flying out of my butt.

[Alas Babylon!]

Over the past couple of years, I have had the same issues with my blood oxygen level. I have various chronological disorders, so see several doctors several times a year.

Every time I get the oxygen test, the make me do it over, sometimes several times. “The nurse will say, “That’s too low.” High 80s to 92. I say, “No, I’m always like this.” They eventually give up and accept my numbers.

[Qout]

Swordmaker, I’m going out on a limb here. I just ran across this research paper. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1521661620306513 You might want to give NAC a try together with Vitamin D. https://www.jomarlabs.com/products/n-acetyl-l-cysteine
I have no idea whether it will help or not. If you try it, please ping me back with your results. Disclaimer: I am not a medical professional. Always consult your doctor.

[Revel]

If patients could get HCQ that would be the end of the problem.

[TigersEye]

MMM - Mask Mandate Murder

[TheWriterTX]

In January I was fine.

In February I was hospitalized with Covid symptoms.

In April, I was visiting a pulmonologist for the first time in my life. He looks at my scans and asks when I had Covid because my lungs were all scarred up.

By mid-April, I am confirmed with COPD.

It’s September. I now have emphysema, too.

Yeah, that was fast.

F China. Bastards cut years off my life. And f the people who claim it is just the flu. I had the flu before and shook it off easy. This was 10 times worse and left lasting damage.

And no, I am not overweight, don’t have kidney issues, or all the other stupid excuses people use. I was, until February of this year, a working wife and active mother of 3 kids (20, 18, and 14). Now, I have to ask my kids to help me clean my own darn house because I’m wiped after a week of work!

I don’t want pity, but don’t lie to my face and tell me this crap isn’t as bad as the flu. My lungs would strongly disagree.

[eens]

Here’s an article detailing the ARDS problem: cell-free hemoglobin. The virus damages red blood cells, and oxygen transport decreases. A saw a couple of videos months ago from ICU doctors who realized that the ventilator wasn’t helping. They saw symptoms that were more like altitude sickness.

https://www.evolutamente.it/covid-19-ards-cell-free-hemoglobin-the-ascorbic-acid-connection/

I’m not a med/bio person, but it appears to be well referenced. It gives an oral vitamin C protocol to combat the hemoglobin damage, and presents studies showing that it is possible to raise blood ascorbate levels via oral dosing. The nice part is that vitamin C is harmless. The worst that will happen is you’ll get diarrhea.

[null and void]

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old fart’s life, it's worth it.

[Dick Bachert]

RFK, JR THROWS DOWN A GAUNTLET TO GATES, FAUCI and BIG PHARMA
https://www.brighteon.com/954d92cd-ba02-4da4-ab29-c19851d7b959

[thesearethetimes...]

Mark

[BeauBo]

I would guess that the two main things would to make sure that any lingering pathogen was successfully treated, and then to steadily work to rehabilitate the lungs and blood.

If there is some lingering level of COVID, supplemental zinc and a zinc ionophore, like the prescription hydroxychloroquine, or non-prescription plant polyphenols such as the flavonoids quercetin (QCT) and epigallocatechin-gallate (EGCG – green tea extract), might help to resolve it. A liter or two of tonic water (they have sugar free varieties) has about the quinine activity of a dose of Hydroychloroquine. Maybe a course of antibiotics (like Azithromycin) to clear the decks of opportunistic bacterial component, like a walking pneumonia.

Stretching out the torso/shoulders/ribs and doing deep breathing exercises (like Yogic pranayama, or Wim Hof Method) to increase lung capacity, and doing cardio exercise, might stimulate improvements over time. Even if there is scarring, things will get some degree better with regular exercise, and likely some degree worse without it - so may as well make it a goal of your general exercise plan, to specifically increase the vital capacity of the lungs.

I saw some thing that I can’t reference, which theorized that another mechanism of COVID damage had to do with sugar damage (glycation) in the blood cells, so that a ketogenic diet might be useful during infection. That would hold out good hope for restoring function lost due to that mechanism, as blood cells are replaced over the course of months.

Regardless of the cause, get on a program to build general vigor and lung capacity - it is good no matter what.

Work that breath all the way in, and all the way out. Stretch! Stretch! Stretch! Max it out.

[familyop]

Wouldn’t someone with a low blood oxygen level turn blue in the palms of the hands, upper cheeks under the eyes, etc.? It should be obvious. Saw it on myself and others during hikes at very high elevations (high altitudes) quite a number of times.

[Karoo]

I have trouble breathing at night. Had sleep study and was prescribed CPAP.

I can sleep now! I cannot believe how well I sleep now. My brain is getting the oxygen it needs.