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How Airbus Reacted To The A350 Cockpit Coffee Problem
Simple Flying ^ | 5 Sept 2020 | Chris Loh

Posted on 09/05/2020 2:21:03 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

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To: SkyDancer

Long ago a coworker was an avid pilot, had a video of someone doing loops, and the coffee(?) not spilling and fully inverted.

Centrifugal force, cool stuff.


21 posted on 09/05/2020 3:05:20 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: null and void; DUMBGRUNT

So the coffee is no longer effective at dissolving Airbus parts?
Back to the drawing board.


22 posted on 09/05/2020 3:08:52 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

There is a book, originally written in post war Russia called “Along came the inventor” which was written to train managers (and engineers) a process for problem solving. When you got used to applying it to systems, you would be pulling some amazing stuff...out of the air. (Or out of your backside.)

It is written like something out of Soviet Russia. But it has some good ideas.


23 posted on 09/05/2020 3:09:58 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

I find Railroad signals interesting and COOL!! Would love to learn more about them.


24 posted on 09/05/2020 3:22:36 PM PDT by Married with Children (At)
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To: 109ACS; Wally_Kalbacken

“Fate is the Hunter” was the first thing I thought of. Good movie. And prophetic, it appears!


25 posted on 09/05/2020 3:57:03 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: DUMBGRUNT

One of our daughters is a Systems Engineer for NASA’s Orion capsule. Her Major was Human Factors.

Question: Do you have an engine quit from lack of a signal from a switch on the instrument console, or do you have a pilot doze from lack of caffeine?

Or do you install cup holders immediately while you engineer spill- proof panels?


26 posted on 09/05/2020 4:22:03 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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To: 109ACS

That book is great


27 posted on 09/05/2020 4:33:15 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: butlerweave
Did they add Cup Holders ? LOL or they should have watched this movie ,Fate Is the Hunter (1964)

That movie was so bad that Ernie Gann demanded his name be removed from the credits.

I saw it once. It's a stinker.

The High and the Mighty, and especially Island in the Sky are much better aviation movies with Island in the Sky getting the nod for the most realistic aviation movie and for John Wayne's non-machismo performance.

28 posted on 09/05/2020 4:46:46 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Kozak
Those are known as “ stewardesses”.

Hostitutes.

29 posted on 09/05/2020 4:47:36 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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To: Darksheare

Airbus also has a big problem when rats get on board, they are eating the duct work and some wiring insulation that is made from “ green” materials. More than a few mini buses flying in out of LGA pick them up presumably from catering trucks, the last one pictured weighed in at 3 lbs.....I will not disclose details how/ why that rat was found, common sense tells you what can happen when wiring and ducting is eaten through....


30 posted on 09/05/2020 4:50:44 PM PDT by delta7
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Jeeze, they can fly a jumbo jet but aren’t smart enough to not spill their coffee?


31 posted on 09/05/2020 4:56:14 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Bob Hoover, one of the greatest pilots ever. Watch him pour iced tea while he does a barrel roll:

Bob Hoover

32 posted on 09/05/2020 5:58:40 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Fate is the Hunter..............the movie, not the book.


33 posted on 09/05/2020 6:30:36 PM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches, and get with what's real.)
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To: Henchster

“Watch him pour iced tea while he does a barrel roll”

Simply the best!

Bob Hoover, pilot who escaped POW camp by stealing a German plane, dies at 94

“. The renowned World War II airman Gen. Jimmy Doolittle once called Mr. Hoover “the greatest stick-and-rudder man who ever lived.”

In 1947, Mr. Hoover was a test pilot flying alongside Chuck Yeager when Yeager broke the sound barrier. Mr. Hoover taught dive-bombing maneuvers to Air Force pilots during the Korean War.

He flew more than 300 varieties of airplanes and knew virtually every significant figure in the history of aviation, from Orville Wright to Charles Lindbergh to Neil Armstrong, the first astronaut to walk on the moon. During his decades as a stunt pilot, Mr. Hoover handled his plane so smoothly that he could pour a cup of tea while executing a ­360-degree roll”

When a German mechanic approached, Mr. Hoover’s friend pulled the gun on him.

“We told him unless he could get us airborne fast, we were going to kill him,” Mr. Hoover recalled years later.

The German plane’s engine started, but Mr. Hoover’s buddy refused to get aboard, vowing never to fly in another airplane. Instead, he took his chances on foot — and years later was reunited with Mr. Hoover.

The stolen plane had a German cross painted on the side, and Mr. Hoover was fearful of being attacked by Allied forces as he flew along the coast of Germany toward the Netherlands.

“I didn’t have any maps or charts,” he said in a 2007 interview with the publication Airport Journals. “I knew that if I turned west and followed the shoreline, I would be safe when I saw windmills.”

Hailed as a hero, he noted that the prison camps were loosely guarded during the waning days of the war. “People made it sound like a great escape,” he said, “but the guards had deserted us.”

In Moscow in 1966, he was briefly detained because he outshone Soviet pilots while flying a Russian-built plane.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/bob-hoover-pilot-who-escaped-pow-camp-by-stealing-a-german-plane-dies-at-94/2016/10/25/c3dfd16c-9ad2-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html


34 posted on 09/05/2020 6:31:14 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If it ain’t Boeing, I ain’t going.


35 posted on 09/05/2020 7:08:35 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I'm an airline pilot. Coffee in the cockpit isn't an option, it's a necessity for us to function just like air. Anything drinkable in the cockpit can and will be spilled sooner or later, it's not a question of if but rather when. Those little sippy cup tops don't work, if they go on they also come off. Cupholders don't solve the problem because to actually drink the coffee you have to remove it from the cupholder, staring at the coffee cup as it sits in the cupholder doesn't give the same effect. I kind of like the idea of stewardesses to hold the coffee cup to our lips while we do that cool pilot stuff, but the problem is most of them are so old their hands shake and they don't see too well so they might pour it in our ear. That could be on purpose though.

I know it's a stretch, but maybe Airbus should design the airplane so the engines don't shut down when liquid is spilled on the console. Radical idea, but a good one I think.

36 posted on 09/05/2020 10:00:10 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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To: SkyDancer

There are only about 50 brands of leak and spill proof stainless thermo mugs you can buy from pretty much anywhere.

Costco has a pack of two for about $20. Problem solved.


37 posted on 09/05/2020 10:15:16 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: GaryCrow

My younger son Flys A-330s for Delta. He doesn’t drink coffee.


38 posted on 09/05/2020 10:18:53 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: GaryCrow

” Airbus should design the airplane so the engines don’t shut down when liquid is spilled on the console. “

Is there a simple reason that this one model aircraft has this problem?

All of them appear to have many switches, controls, displays...

That would have a similar number of vulnerable connections?

Any idea why this one?


39 posted on 09/06/2020 7:14:15 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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