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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Yes, I think if the same standard that has been used in previous years to tally “flu deaths” was used, that would be fair. I apologize if that’s what is being said because I’m not interested enough to dive into the data and from an overview of the CDC report it didn’t jump out at me.

If a person with heart disease caught covid and went into the hospital, developed pneumonia, went on a ventilator and died - that would be a covid death to my way of thinking. But, the same scenario where the person died of a heart attack before going to the hospital (or even after), obviously should not be. The gray area is when the virus pushes a person with pre-existing conditions over the edge, which is why I say it would probably ltake a post mortem to tell for sure.


1,014 posted on 08/30/2020 5:43:49 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: bigbob; Cletus.D.Yokel
RE: WuHuFlue Deaths

I think possibly the best way to estimate/check what is being reported is to examine a comparison of deaths from all cause in prior year to deaths in 2020.

Reposting from previous finding:

SOURCE: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lessons-from-the-lockdown-why-are-so-many-fewer-children-dyin

Before mid‐March, overall U.S. deaths were trending at a level no different from recent years at between 55‐60,000 per week.

Beginning in the week ending on March 28, all;cause deaths began rising sharply, peaking in the week ending April 11 at around 75,000, or 137% of Expected Deaths for the week. Immediately thereafter, all-caused deaths began dropping sharply.

Within five weeks, all‐cause deaths were back to their typical range. By the week ending May 16, the measurable pandemic death impact had ended even though Covid19;related deaths most certainly had not.

At least in this ;week period, the Covid19 pandemic was considerably worse than a typical flu season. To the extent that all;cause deaths fell back to expected levels during May, the excess mortality attributable to the pandemic has passed.

Many states actually saw lower than expected deaths during the period. To be sure, an excess death rate of 5% for the entire U.S. is considerable but also far short of the apocalyptic narrative the pandemic has received.

Variation by policy environment To the extent that policies have varied across the states, it is not clear that the imposition and/or presence of stringent lock‐down policies had much to do with the variation in excess deaths. Less stringent lockdown policies were not associated with higher death rates.

In fact, the 5 states that chose not to impose a lockdown are among the roughly 20 jurisdictions with no excess deaths at all. ...snip...

Somehow, the changing pattern of American life during the lockdowns has been saving the lives of hundreds of infants, over 200 per week.

from Imgflip Meme Generator

1,088 posted on 08/30/2020 9:28:34 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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