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Parents have lost control of their children's education
Washington Times ^ | Saturday, August 22, 2020 | Everett Piper

Posted on 08/23/2020 4:17:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Where did this all come from: the vitriol and vice, the anger and hatred, the looting, the riots, the destruction, the nihilistic confusion, the science-denying gender-bending sexuality, the suicidal infatuation with socialism, the adolescent whining for safety rather than freedom?

Just look over your son’s or daughter’s shoulder, and you might find the answer.

Mr. Kay, who teaches English at... a Philadelphia public school, expressed his concern about the “damage” that “parents” might cause if they overheard the lessons he had prepared for their children.

Mr. Kay then described how “conservative parents” are his chief concern when he and his fellow teachers are engaging “in the messy work of destabilization.”

This past week the parents of students who attend Rutherford County Schools (RCS) in Tennessee were sent a note telling them that they must sign a form agreeing not to monitor their child’s online classroom sessions...

In other words, parents in the heartland of Tennessee are being told to sign a form agreeing not to observe their son’s and daughter’s education or their child will be expelled from class. Unless, of course, teachers such as Mr. Kay, out of the benevolence of his heart, grant these lowly parents’ permission to engage.

Maybe it is because we have allowed ourselves to be removed from the No.1 obligation we have in raising our children: “Train up a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it” (Proverbs 22:6).

Call me crazy, but if I’m paying the bill for my kid’s education (which I am), I have the right to be involved in and informed of everything — everything! — you’re teaching him, and there isn’t a snowball’s chance in Texas I’m signing a form forfeiting that right.

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TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: arth; children; control; education; educrats; everettpiper; notyourkids; parents; pennsylvania; philadelphia; rutherfordcounty; tennessee
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To: Vermont Lt; Salvavida; TermLimits4All; Chickensoup; dp0622; eyeamok; Tired of Taxes; ...

The republican plank on education this week reads like this:
EDUCATION

Provide School Choice to Every Child in America
Teach American Exceptionalism

This is a minimalist plank. That is, one that the president could do if the democrats hold the house.

If the republicans can hold the senate and retake the house what would be a maximalist agenda for republicans on education.


61 posted on 08/28/2020 11:31:15 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

More than ever, it’s important to make sure our votes count.


62 posted on 08/29/2020 1:41:52 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: BenLurkin

Something tells me that in countries like Japan, they could CARE LESS if parents are standing there, right over the shoulders of their kids.

...and yet 80% of Conservatives STILL send their kids to these institutions.


63 posted on 08/29/2020 5:48:17 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Hambone 1934

“How dare you tell me what I can or can’t do in my own home..THIS IS NOT NAZI GERMANY.....Force them to admit parents are welcome....”

How do we force that, put a gun to the principal’s head or something? My point is, as long as they’re government funded, THEY, and only they, will set the rules, as we’re seeing here.


64 posted on 08/29/2020 5:50:32 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Mogger

“I told him we didn’t just prove she was a good reader...We just proved our nation in in deep crap if that was second year college level.”

I kind of say the same thing, in a demented way. Our kids are NOT geniuses, or even close to such, but they were YEARS ahead of their grade levels (generally 6 to 8 years). Why, because we did what you did (and what the schools USED TO do), and simply taught them phonics and math using a pencil and paper and NO CALCULATORS.

So my kids get all these great opportunities and are now making bank, not because they’re geniuses, but because the rest of the country is so far dumbed-down that they APPEAR to be brilliant.

...but I know, your* public school is just wonderful and would NEVER want to harm our precious children, they only want the best - it’s only those ‘other’ schools, the ones over ‘there’, on the other side of the tracks - yea, that’s where the problem is. Yep.

*obviously not you!


65 posted on 08/29/2020 5:57:21 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Persevero

“Most of us could have sacrificed to home or private school.”

WATCH IT, PAL. You don’t know us well enough to conclude that. For example, my family:
How could my kids show their faces to other children if I drove them around in a car that was more than 5 years old, pal?
How could they explain living in a small house, when all the other kids lived in larger ones, pal?
We’re in TEXAS, how could my kids explain not having at least an F-150 in the driveway, pal?
How could they relate to other kids, if they didn’t have smart phones and X-Boxes, pal?
In summary, they would have been SCARRED FOR LIFE, pal?

...of course it didn’t seem that way for my kids, and they had all of the above ‘deprivations’, I guess they’re the exception.


66 posted on 08/29/2020 6:03:16 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Hojczyk

“All kids could be reading by age three or four...it is very simple...it could be taught to every parent in one hour and cost almost nothing...plus they usually develop great memories”

QUIET - that takes phonics, and phonics are part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to take over education. We need to stick with Sight Words, at least until 4th Grade.


67 posted on 08/29/2020 6:04:48 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Think free or die

“Sight word instruction and lack of effort have contributed to a crippled generation of readers. Pedagogical malpractice.”

Don’t think, FOR A MOMENT, that it’s not intentional, at least at the upper levels, where the decisions are made. They know what works, but their prime motivation is to simply bring this country down, or at least white America down, a notch or two. And what better way to do that than to delay them learning to read or learning math, as long as possible.

They own education, and yet WE still still feed them our kids. I’ve given up on this country, and even my fellow conservatives, after the way I was treated by them when I told them that even their ‘wonderful’ public schools sucked. The only people who did listen were immigrants, as they came from countries with much better education systems than ours, and so had something to compare us to. The rest...they’re clueless, but they sure know how to live in nice houses!


68 posted on 08/29/2020 6:11:34 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: Tired of Taxes

“Best not to send the kids to college today, unless they commute. Yes, 18 is an adult, but at my age, I now see 18 as a kid.”

YEP, kept my kids at home, simply based on my own live-in college experience. BEST THING that I ever did regarding college. Sure, it greatly limited where they could go to school, but after the first job or two, no one cares!


69 posted on 08/29/2020 6:13:36 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: BobL
The nature of my work requires intelligent, conscientious people with excellent character (all of which makes me wonder what I am doing there).

After I deal with those folks all day long and then have to deal with the general public, I am astonished at the lack of all three, but especially intelligence and education. Spend the day with a bunch of geniuses and then walk through walmart. Our schools are largely monuments to failure. My kids never set foot in one.

Listen to the protesters speak, and you quickly realize these people are not only completely ignorant, they know nothing about character or integrity. All they have is a will to power. They believe with all their hearts they have a divine right to rule.

70 posted on 08/29/2020 6:14:37 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Still Thinking

“Technically, I have every right to go in and audit my kid’s class if he’s at the physical school. Obviously, I don’t have fewer rights when they’re borrowing my living room to use as their school.”

You ONLY have the rights granted to you by the schools, unless you’re really willing to spend 5 figures to fight them in court.


71 posted on 08/29/2020 6:15:39 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: BobL

I said “most of us” on purpose. No need to get hostile.


72 posted on 08/29/2020 8:49:41 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: Persevero

Sorry, I was trolling the type of answers that I’ve gotten in the past, when I’ve said the same!


73 posted on 08/29/2020 8:50:56 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: BobL

Oh man too early in the morning for me to detect sarcasm. I literally have not had my coffee.

Yeah we lived in a bit of a dump and never ordered takeout. Our car was pretty bad. Vacations were visiting grandparents. It was a perfectly good life but we sure didn’t have new soccer cleats or destination birthday parties.

My kids’ friends did things like have paid clowns and characters and parties at Chuck E Cheese and swim parks and one memorably took the crew to New York City and went to a Broadway show. I very much appreciated their generosity. We had sleepovers and played stupid games and had homemade cake. That was fun, too.


74 posted on 08/29/2020 8:54:28 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
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To: BobL
So my kids get all these great opportunities and are now making bank, not because they’re geniuses, but because the rest of the country is so far dumbed-down that they APPEAR to be brilliant.

Have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"?

What you just said is the exact theme of the movie.

Buy it, don't just rent it, there are many subtle nuances.

75 posted on 08/29/2020 9:19:08 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: BobL
Don’t think, FOR A MOMENT, that it’s not intentional, at least at the upper levels, where the decisions are made. They know what works, but their prime motivation is to simply bring this country down, or at least white America down, a notch or two. And what better way to do that than to delay them learning to read or learning math, as long as possible.

That is probably true for some.

But I think most actually believe their own BS.

Part of it is a "follow the money" mess. Read Rudolph Flesch.

In addition to the money scam, we have generations of teachers and professors in teachers' colleges who now really believe that teaching reading is complicated and needs only professionals to teach it.

One of my best friends, formerly chairman of our school board was a retired mechanical engineer, former B-24 bombardier-navigator who has been involved in the development of a LOT of things that are well know by everyone.

Another of my best friends was the assistant superintendent of our school district, a retired Special Forces ops colonel who is fluent in several languages, has doctorates in education and economics.

He's also been in the middle of a lot of events that have been in the news.

He also was in a Harvard think tank on the teaching of reading.

He came to our district, seeking a small school system where he could "give back", with a huge sacrifice in pay compared to what he could have gotten elsewhere.

He was hoping in that manner to be able to work at improving the system.

We had many "discussions" over the teaching of reading in our district, but the idea of using phonics just wasn't getting anywhere with the assist. super.

Despite his high intelligence and education he was (and is) a complete klutz with computers.

Ernie (engineer) and I were constantly bailing him out of the messes he created.

Ernie and I were both self taught from the old Fortran and DOS days, having just read the books and figured it out.

One day, in frustration, Ernie exploded at him, and asked him, why don't you just read the instructions?

He said he had to be taught everything in a class as he couldn't understand it.

Ernie responded (approximately) of course not, you weren't taught phonics and the words are foreign to you.

He finally "got it" about phonics and realized the "think tanks" were completely wrong in their ideas on the teaching of reading.

BTW, Ernie died last year at 98 years.

I'll give you a quote from him that has nothing to do with this, but will stick with you forever.

"The natural perversity if inanimate objects".

Think about that the next time you have to untangle a mess of electrical cords, a curled up hose, a mess of tools, etc.

76 posted on 08/29/2020 9:46:47 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: BobL
YEP, kept my kids at home, simply based on my own live-in college experience. BEST THING that I ever did regarding college.

Good for you. I never lived on campus myself, so I was so happy when my firstborn got that opportunity. Now that I know better, I'm relieved that my other kids do not live on campus.

77 posted on 08/29/2020 4:13:51 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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